Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Hitei]

Oh no, he Ordered them.

[ZyntosAran]

https://x.com/Warcraft/status/1716545030318354553?s=20 Yes!!!!

Thats sexy as fuck.

[Dracullus]

https://x.com/Warcraft/status/1716545030318354553?s=20 Yes!!!!

End of that questline wasn't tested in 10.2, right? Cause I think whatever we learn from Tyr's disk, will be massive spoiler for next expansion.

[Raetary]

11 days left.

[Catastrophy349]

End of that questline wasn't tested in 10.2, right? Cause I think whatever we learn from Tyr's disk, will be massive spoiler for next expansion.

Tyr questline comes to its conclusion in 10.2 (i.e. AFTER BlizzCon). So, it can definitely give us more context after the announcement, sure.

[matijwow]

So now we have aspects for

White dragons
Black dragons
Red dragons
Yellow dragons
Green dragons
Blue dragons

We still need a pink dragonflight to complete the power rangers color scheme.

[Thomir]

How do I even start the Tyr questlines ... Is it renowngated or timegated

[Dracullus]

Tyr questline comes to its conclusion in 10.2 (i.e. AFTER BlizzCon). So, it can definitely give us more context after the announcement, sure.

Of course, but some questlines are available for test and some hidden until release.

[Ferlion]

So now we have aspects for

White dragons
Black dragons
Red dragons
Yellow dragons
Green dragons
Blue dragons

We still need a pink dragonflight to complete the power rangers color scheme.

I mean, there really isn't any indication the white dragons have an aspect.

[Reive]

How do I even start the Tyr questlines ... Is it renowngated or timegated

neither.

/10chars

[Catastrophy349]

Of course, but some questlines are available for test and some hidden until release.

Correct. This one was NOT available for testing on PTR, to answer the question.

[huth]

Those classes always had melee and ranged options; clearly I'm not talking about them - most people play druids because they like the fact you have so much variety in one class; you could easily play only a druid for the entire game and experience all the different ways of playing

When I play a hunter; I want to play a ranged
When I play a warrior; I want to play a melee

And them having a ranged/melee spec doesn't take away from that. But a class having 3 specs with the same role is rather silly. If they made hunters today, they likely wouldn't have 3 specs. There's a reason you don't see that post WotLK.

Wouldn't be surprised if they had experimented with Mage melee specs as well and just not come up with something they liked.

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So now we have aspects for

White dragons
Black dragons
Red dragons
Yellow dragons
Green dragons
Blue dragons

We still need a pink dragonflight to complete the power rangers color scheme.

Wouldn't that be White Proto-Dragons?

And they're still missing their Dragonzords.

[flan1337]

I honestly wouldn’t mind Khaz Algar being like Metro Nui

Scale won't make too sense but would be cool as Metro nui was mata nuis brain in a way. So we could travel to the brain of azeroth.

[PotHockets]

Tyr questline comes to its conclusion in 10.2 (i.e. AFTER BlizzCon). So, it can definitely give us more context after the announcement, sure.

We're killing the Keepers in 11.0 aren't we?

[Baraden]

You could, but I'm not the one demanding that 100% of spec designs be to my liking rather than just 97% of them, so I'm not sure doubling down is gonna do much besides underline how absurd your stance is.

Okay; I'll make it clear and help you understand

What is a tank's role? To Tank
What is a healer's role? To heal
What is a DPS' role? To deal damage

That's everything covered; so what is the need for a support? Is it to help people survive? Why can't the healer do that? Is it to make people do more damage? Why can't the DPS just to tuned to deal that extra damage anyway?

The reason I'm agaist support as a spec is because in WoW; every spec is a support spec - a DPS doesn't only do damage in WoW, an elemental shaman has tremor totem, a feral druid has stampeding roar, a warrior has rallying cry

Why do we need support specs when historically almost every spec has been designed to support their group in certain niche situations?

Now; knowing Blizzard as we do - if they do move forward with support specs, they aren't going to give something for nothing - other specs will lose things to justify the existence and necessity of a support in your group

My whole point stems from the fact the game has been more than fine for 15 years without support specs; if they add them randomly - well blizzard aren't just going to make every player in the game more powerful without them losing something in the process

If they do add support as a 4th spec in 11.0; mark my words - in a years time we will have QQ threads of X class being mad why Y ability was made support exlusive, in a ideal world of good class design, there would be no need for a support spec

[ro9ue]

[Catastrophy349]

We're killing the Keepers in 11.0 aren't we?

Keeper? Hardly know her!

[Baraden]

And them having a ranged/melee spec doesn't take away from that. But a class having 3 specs with the same role is rather silly. If they made hunters today, they likely wouldn't have 3 specs. There's a reason you don't see that post WotLK.

Wouldn't be surprised if they had experimented with Mage melee specs as well and just not come up with something they liked.

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Wouldn't that be White Proto-Dragons?

And they're still missing their Dragonzords.

Again; they made survival melee in Legion to shake things up and it's remained one of the least played specs in the game outside of the times it's not been objectively overpowered like in 9.3 with the tier bonus, and they have said they don't intend on changing existing specs like that ever again

If I wanted to play a melee I'd play a rogue not a hunter

[Hitei]

Okay; I'll make it clear and help you understand

What is a tank's role? To Tank
What is a healer's role? To heal
What is a DPS' role? To deal damage

That's everything covered; so what is the need for a support? Is it to help people survive? Why can't the healer do that? Is it to make people do more damage? Why can't the DPS just to tuned to deal that extra damage anyway?

Why do you need a tank? Just tune the mob damage so that the DPS can handle it. Why do you need a healer? Just tune self heals to keep up with mob damage. Not sure you've accomplished the point you intended here. The roles don't exist because they are actually necessary.

[Baraden]

Why do you need a tank? Just tune the mob damage so that the DPS can handle it. Why do you need a healer? Just tune self heals to keep up with mob damage. Not sure you've accomplished the point you intended here. The roles don't exist because they are actually necessary.

Well I genuinely gave you my point of view in good faith but you're going to be obtuse because you have no real argument; you know very well what point I'm making here

Not going to derail the thread with a back and forth about it; guess we will see at blizzcon where Blizzard's head is at - hopefully they make the right decision