Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Enrif]

With Tyr being remade, all titans will have an active keeper. And Khaz'goroths titan keeper, Archaedas is just deactivated, but i guess Tyr could activate him. Perhaps this will lead to the new expansion, the first time since Tyr's death that each Titan has an active keeper?

Odyn for Aman'Thul
Tyr for Aggramar
Mimiron for Norgannon
Freya for Eonar
Archaedas for Khaz'goroth
Hodir for Golganneth
Thorim for Golganneth

And only Golganneth has two keepers. The only other Titans that got more than one keeper used to be Aman'Thul with Ra'den, and Norgannon with Loken.
Perhaps this unbalance in favor of the Titan named the Thunderer and is the lord of the skies and roaring oceans, will be important.

[Makorus]

Yoo, the fake leakers have started to spread their shitty cryptic posts into several separate posts now, to spam the forum.

How advanced.

[Pinksocking]

Yoo, the fake leakers have started to spread their shitty cryptic posts into several separate posts now, to spam the forum.

How advanced.

Mods help us

[Harbour]

Not going to lie, while doing Tyr's questline i had a gut feeling that he, being associated with Paladins, will somehow turn out to be the catalyst of the Light Invasion.
Most likely wont happen but id like if he turned basically doing Light's work in the 10.2.5, opening up the way for Y'rel and Co on Azeroth.

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Imagine putting covenants return in your fake leak, lmao. Literally the dehypest thing you could possibly put into new expansion and leak.

[Arahsza]

Light would condemn your kind to obedience and stagnation, I offer the gifts of strength and freedom, I hope you will always remember my kindness.

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[Azalar]

Not going to lie, while doing Tyr's questline i had a gut feeling that he, being associated with Paladins, will somehow turn out to be the catalyst of the Light Invasion.
Most likely wont happen but id like if he turned basically doing Light's work in the 10.2.5, opening up the way for Y'rel and Co on Azeroth.

If Titans are so biased in their perception of the world, Tyr's being the watcher of truth and of secrets is also paradoxical. My bet is he's a rebel somehow and is against Odyn.

[Pinksocking]

Light would condemn your kind to obedience and stagnation, I offer the gifts of strength and freedom, I hope you will always remember my kindness.

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Stfu stop spamming this thread with this fake shite

[NikolaiShade]

Thorim, Tyr, and Freya vs the rest and Daddy Odyn.

Thorim maybe, Freya for sure, about Tyr I had a gut feeling he would have turned out hostile (maybe even corrupted by the void), after yesterday's reveal of the white skin as a reward for completing tyr's quest chain I'm not so sure anymore

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Imagine putting covenants return in your fake leak, lmao. Literally the dehypest thing you could possibly put into new expansion and leak.

Covenants devoid of gameplay mechanics and just for story and cosmetics would be a great idea honestly, add the option to change covenant after completing their campaign and I'd be sold

[Makorus]

Thorim maybe, Freya for sure, about Tyr I had a gut feeling he would have turned out hostile (maybe even corrupted by the void), after yesterday's reveal of the white skin as a reward for completing tyr's quest chain I'm not so sure anymore

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Covenants devoid of gameplay mechanics and just for story and cosmetics would be a great idea honestly, add the option to change covenant after completing their campaign and I'd be sold

I mean, at that point it's just a more annoying faction.

[ercarp]

Light would condemn your kind to obedience and stagnation, I offer the gifts of strength and freedom, I hope you will always remember my kindness.

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This is the most AI generated image I've seen so far.

I'm not adding any of this to the sheet by the way, if that's what you're after. I know I said that the cryptic/vague leaks tend to be more credible, but you need to put in at least a little more effort than this. You haven't given us anything of substance, the only thing we can work out from your posts is that Azshara is returning—which is entirely possible, but what does that tell us about the rest of the expansion? What's the setting like? Are there new classes? New races? World revamp? What about gameplay systems?

Other leaks have also mentioned Azshara returning, but that's usually just one small part of the leak. A plot point. It can't be the "theme" of the entire expansion.

[Harbour]

Light would condemn your kind to obedience and stagnation, I offer the gifts of strength and freedom, I hope you will always remember my kindness.

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Thorim maybe, Freya for sure, about Tyr I had a gut feeling he would have turned out hostile (maybe even corrupted by the void), after yesterday's reveal of the white skin as a reward for completing tyr's quest chain I'm not so sure anymore

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Covenants devoid of gameplay mechanics and just for story and cosmetics would be a great idea honestly, add the option to change covenant after completing their campaign and I'd be sold

I disagree. Story being locked behind something you cant currently experience (because you are locked behind another covenant) and cosmetics being locked the same way were one of the worst Aspects of SL. And i remember players complaining a lot about that.
I hope Blizzard got their feedback on that and will never come up with such concept.
Same comes to Tyr's questline. Its terrible that it was locked behind Renown reputation. Players should be able to experience the story without the need to grind subjectively boring shit.

[NikolaiShade]

You shouldnt have put obviously AI generated pucture, my dude.

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I disagree. Story being locked behind something you cant currently experience (because you are locked behind another covenant) and cosmetics being locked the same way were one of the worst Aspects of SL. And i remember players complaining a lot about that.
I hope Blizzard got their feedback on that and will never come up with such concept.
Same comes to Tyr's questline. Its terrible that it was locked behind Renown reputation. Players should be able to experience the story without the need to grind subjectively boring shit.

I don't know, honestly the main complain i had about covenants was choosing one for the active skill and not for story and esthetics, about the quest chains being locked i agree with you

[Teriz]

The "going back to Azeroth" part is tricky because yeah, we're in Azeroth, but in a new area we've never been before that's disconnected from the world. Essentially it's the same as going to the Shadowlands.

If we're going to chase the void, we still need a reason as to why the void is there -besides Dimensius easy linking-. I mean, why is K'aresh linked to Azeroth? The Ethereals never suggested so.

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Edit: Mediterranean climate would be something in between Westfall and Redridge if I had to compare.

Why would we "chase the void" though?

The biggest issues with K'aresh or Avaloren concepts is that there's no skin in either game. We don't know anything about either location, and there's no major characters tied to either place, so why go there?

Consider that every expansion we've had a major character "hooking" us to an expansion;

TBC: Illidan
WotLK: Arthas/Lich King
Cataclysm: Deathwing
MoP: Chen Stormstout
WoD: Garrosh
Legion: Gul'Dan
BFA: Jaina Proudmoore
Shadowlands: Sylvanas
Dragonflight: Alexstraza

If we're going by precedent here, Thrall is "hooking" us to the upcoming expansion, and that doesn't work with K'aresh or Avaloren.

[Makorus]

Why would we "chase the void" though?

The biggest issues with K'aresh or Avaloren concepts is that there's no skin in either game. We don't know anything about either location, and there's no major characters tied to either place, so why go there?

Consider that every expansion we've had a major character "hooking" us to an expansion;

TBC: Illidan
WotLK: Arthas/Lich King
Cataclysm: Deathwing
MoP: Chen Stormstout
WoD: Garrosh
Legion: Gul'Dan
BFA: Jaina Proudmoore
Shadowlands: Sylvanas
Dragonflight: Alexstraza

If we're going by precedent here, Thrall is "hooking" us to the upcoming expansion, and that doesn't work with K'aresh or Avaloren.

We had no reason to go to Outland/Northrend/Pandaria/Dragonflight until the respective expansion.

[lanerios]

Why would we "chase the void" though?

The biggest issues with K'aresh or Avaloren concepts is that there's no skin in either game. We don't know anything about either location, and there's no major characters tied to either place, so why go there?

Consider that every expansion we've had a major character "hooking" us to an expansion;

TBC: Illidan
WotLK: Arthas/Lich King
Cataclysm: Deathwing
MoP: Chen Stormstout
WoD: Garrosh
Legion: Gul'Dan
BFA: Jaina Proudmoore
Shadowlands: Sylvanas
Dragonflight: Alexstraza

If we're going by precedent here, Thrall is "hooking" us to the upcoming expansion, and that doesn't work with K'aresh or Avaloren.

How is Thrall hooking us into anything? Right now the Primalists (or whatever is left of them at the end of DF) might be bringing us to the next place.

WoD also had a very very very vague link to Pandaria with Jailbreak + suddenly time travel.

We are not even close to the end of the expansion at this point, so let's not assume we already have all the lore hooks that we need.

[huth]

Lmao I felt so sorry for the WoWhead person who was 100% right and no commentor at the time saw it.

The orb being more classical titans is the only change, which is most likely just a time / cost saving thing.

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That shows more how they don't match, frankly. Those stylistic differences are pretty stark.

[Pinksocking]

Guys I'm convinced that the pic blizzard posted with the mounts is a hint

Nzoth is IN blizzcon

[Lahis]

I will say this. The Dall-E thread has some amazing pandaren pictures (like druids transforming into the August Celestials) but those Pandaren are all furry bait bara gods.

Considering the constant still ongoing whining about Dracthyr models and yearning for Dragonids, considerable portion of the player base is thirsting to play as bara gods of varying degrees of furriness.

[Teriz]

We had no reason to go to Outland/Northrend/Pandaria/Dragonflight until the respective expansion.

Again, we had major characters hooking us into those expansions. For example, a Pandaren expansion brings in Chen Stormstout.

[Wangming]

Why would we "chase the void" though?

The biggest issues with K'aresh or Avaloren concepts is that there's no skin in either game. We don't know anything about either location, and there's no major characters tied to either place, so why go there?

Consider that every expansion we've had a major character "hooking" us to an expansion;

TBC: Illidan
WotLK: Arthas/Lich King
Cataclysm: Deathwing
MoP: Chen Stormstout
WoD: Garrosh
Legion: Gul'Dan
BFA: Jaina Proudmoore
Shadowlands: Sylvanas
Dragonflight: Alexstraza

If we're going by precedent here, Thrall is "hooking" us to the upcoming expansion, and that doesn't work with K'aresh or Avaloren.

Exactly. The fuck has an orc shaman have to do with a dwarven city or some Island he hasn't been to?
And who else would be on the box art? Nobody that we know is even remotely related to the place.