Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Demonly]

My problem with this idea is that the underground zones (or the tunnels between them) would need to be ridiculously long to allow for a believable travel between the continents. I'm all for connecting all continents into one map, but doing it through sailing would make much more sense. Then again, it's almost certain that Blizz did not develop "dynamic loading" technology exclusively with Zaralek in mind, so who knows.

I agree this seems like a problem, What if they stair stacked the zones though? I'm imaging like going down some, hitting the first Zone, then there's another hole going further that leads to another zone, and so on forth. idk. just thinking. Probably is a bad thought.

[jallfo]

You don't have to act like you’re some “leak expert”… please, lol. And u don’t have to follow leaks for 20 years to know what is fake and whats real. We’re not dumb, we KNOW.

No need to turn this aggressive and imply name calling. All positive vibes here. I didn't intend to try and be "better" than others... was just trying to explain how this has mostly gone in the past in the spirit of providing perspective from some of the newer people.

[Izalla]

You don't have to act like you’re some “leak expert”… please, lol. And u don’t have to follow leaks for 20 years to know what is fake and whats real. We’re not dumb, we KNOW.

Regarding this part, eehhhhh. Take a look at any legit leak post from prior years and uhhhh... there's a lot of "this is so stupid an obviously fake lol" posts =/

[Bayless]

You don't have to act like you’re some “leak expert”… please, lol. And u don’t have to follow leaks for 20 years to know what is fake and whats real. We’re not dumb, we KNOW.

Bro is just trying to be helpful, relax lol.

[Pinksocking]

fellas

ladies

lets get back on topic

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1716575229663723564

NZOTH IS IN THE BUILDING

[Futhark]

Could do something like this:



Start out at new land that goes all the way down, then use Zaralek tech to link up every surface zone underneath. (Don't laugh at my placement, just to show the idea lol)

Man, do I love this. Make it a Hollow Earth with the World Soul as the center/sun. A true Cosmic Egg.

[Marlamin]

Then again, it's almost certain that Blizz did not develop "dynamic loading" technology exclusively with Zaralek in mind, so who knows.

My gut feeling agrees with that, I've messed around with it a little and it's very clear that albeit it still requires some kind of "airlock" (which is what they call the tech) to hide transitions, it could most definitely be applied elsewhere.

It's not tied to Zaralek at all on the client and instead comes from the server telling the client to go into low-view distance mode and to preload a piece of map (probably when the server sees you halfway the tunnel) and then sometime after doing a seamless teleport to that map.

Counter point is that the the current implementation feels like an early one/experiment as there's still several issues with the system that haven't been fixed since its release. Whether or not that points to it being a one-off or to them not wanting to backport fixes from the 11.0 branch for whatever reason remains to be seen, but I feel like we'll see the tech in some form again soon.

[Lorca]

The leaks so far seem fairly focused on location instead of systems and gameplay.

I was just thinking that a mention about this (as it would be a win-win situation, as you get a "new" race for the older classes as a new feature) could be a good indication of a real leak, but idk... just a feeling!

[ro9ue]

I agree this seems like a problem, What if they stair stacked the zones though? I'm imaging like going down some, hitting the first Zone, then there's another hole going further that leads to another zone, and so on forth. idk. just thinking. Probably is a bad thought.

I think thats a good way to do it. You would lose the connection to the surface level stuff since that would need a more spread out/horizontal layout. But the idea of having to get deeper and deeper could be really interesting. Especially if its like... whats at the core? Is it a world soul? is it corrupted? etc and each layer unravels more of the mystery.

[Valysar]

fellas

ladies

lets get back on topic

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1716575229663723564

NZOTH IS IN THE BUILDING

1 MoP mount, 3 BfA, 3 DF

Humm... 13/3, confirmed, beta out March 13.

[Wangming]

fellas

ladies

lets get back on topic

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1716575229663723564

NZOTH IS IN THE BUILDING

So is a Cloud Serpent. Pandaria revamp?

[NikolaiShade]

fellas

ladies

lets get back on topic

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1716575229663723564

NZOTH IS IN THE BUILDING

considering DF story...if it's not N'zoth it must be someone of the family anyway

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I think thats a good way to do it. You would lose the connection to the surface level stuff since that would need a more spread out/horizontal layout. But the idea of having to get deeper and deeper could be really interesting. Especially if its like... whats at the core? Is it a world soul? is it corrupted? etc and each layer unravels more of the mystery.

I have a crazy theory, assuming we get Khaz Algar and Avaloren, the only way to reach Avaloren is through the fissure in Khaz Algar

[ro9ue]

Man, do I love this. Make it a Hollow Earth with the World Soul as the center/sun. A true Cosmic Egg.

I think a bonus to this would be you can incorporate / reference every piece of land on Azeroth into the new content for a nostalgic anniversary expansion.

[Teriz]

My problem with this idea is that the underground zones (or the tunnels between them) would need to be ridiculously long to allow for a believable travel between the continents. I'm all for connecting all continents into one map, but doing it through sailing would make much more sense. Then again, it's almost certain that Blizz did not develop "dynamic loading" technology exclusively with Zaralek in mind, so who knows.

Depends. If an area like Khaz Algar for example is 3-4 zones large (about the size of Kul'tiras) it could be connected to another zone (say Undermine) via a tunnel system using Dwarven mole machines, or the Gnome/Goblin built tunnels around Undermine, It would be no different than catching a boat between continents.

I'd like to see a new tran system (like the one between Stormwind and Ironforge) coming out of Undermine as well.

[Demonly]

So is a Cloud Serpent. Pandaria revamp?

I think they literally mean that Nzoth is inside the building (on roof). While the cloud serp is outside.

[xputurnameherex]

could be march 31 as well going by that

[flan1337]

My gut feeling agrees with that, I've messed around with it a little and it's very clear that albeit it still requires some kind of "airlock" (which is what they call the tech) to hide transitions, it could most definitely be applied elsewhere.

It's not tied to Zaralek at all on the client and instead comes from the server telling the client to go into low-view distance mode and to preload a piece of map (probably when the server sees you halfway the tunnel) and then sometime after doing a seamless teleport to that map.

Counter point is that the the current implementation feels like an early one/experiment as there's still several issues with the system that haven't been fixed since its release. Whether or not that points to it being a one-off or to them not wanting to backport fixes from the 11.0 branch for whatever reason remains to be seen, but I feel like we'll see the tech in some form again soon.

Wonder if they can use the tech to change how caves work in a revamp world? Or hell even the tram from SW to IF. Imagine if there was no loading screen?? I think there is a lot of possibilities to be had with this new tech!

Its also crazy for an engine from 04 that its able to do all of these stuff - I wonder when we will hit the technical limits of it.

[ro9ue]

Random thought. Anyone think Bael Modan will be relevant?

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Bael_Modan

Kalimdor. Dwarves. Titan facility. Underground. Near sword. Maybe Razorfen Quillboar worshipped the viney/leafy 5th old god from chronicle? The botani supposedly ran over there. Wailing Caverns was weird.

[Paula Deen]

Regarding this part, eehhhhh. Take a look at any legit leak post from prior years and uhhhh... there's a lot of "this is so stupid an obviously fake lol" posts =/

To be fair, usually its the same group of people calling all the leaks fake and usually its not the people with over 1k posts. Its usually fresher faces that call it all fake...usually.

[Pinksocking]

i miss nzoth so much

he was such a great villain

nyalotha was a fantastic raid

gib