Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Teriz]

I'd really love them to restore Kezan, Lost Isles and expand into Undermine - so pointless having that lovely start, never to see it outside the starting experience.

Funny, see lots of requests for Gilneas city to be restored, but almost never see for Kezan.. but then alliance always seem to be requesting stuff - jeez wonder why - level of contentment is much lower on the blue side. The horde requests seem to be mostly Silvermoon revamps

It’s interesting to consider that a restoration of Cataclysm’s events leads to a restoration of both Kezan and Gilneas, so a trip to Kezan/Undermine would make sense for such an expansion.

In addition, there’s the odd placement of the Undermine Clam Chowder item in Azure Span. It’s the first in-game reference to Undermine since Cataclysm, and it was added in 10.0.7.

It could be nothing, but it does match how Blizzard typically hints at future content.

[Woke it Up]

There is a fireplace in the K'aresh inn, fire is elemental!.

It was the basic campfire all along

[Jodmos]

They're like mantid but RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

Pirate Mantid

[pacotaco]

I remember people thinking it was part of an Eversong Woods revamp.

Personally I don't think it looks like it belongs in the Warcraft universe at all. It's cute, but it doesn't mix well with anything in the game.

It fits the Emerald Dream theme, though.

[Mace]

No thank you.

Didn't they already do that in part for dragonflight?

[Polybius]

I remember people thinking it was part of an Eversong Woods revamp.

Personally I don't think it looks like it belongs in the Warcraft universe at all. It's cute, but it doesn't mix well with anything in the game.

I’m starting to think this, the store kodo, and other assets were meant to be part of BfA’s scrapped warfronts.

[ercarp]

I'm not sure if it means anything, but I noticed in a bookstore online that they're releasing, or have recently, new editions of 'Beyond the Dark Portal', 'The Shattering', and 'Shaman'. Bit of a Thrall/shamanism theme going on there.

Where do you see this?

[bruxx]

Can we go back to speculating on potential answers to the SoA acronym?

Has "Sword of Azeroth" been suggested yet? Or what about "Sargeras or Anduin"?

Sons of Anarchy, duh.
Explains the new fel bike models.
New class: METAL
New race: Demonaxx
New feature: Bike riding
New dungeon: Capitalism's fall
New raid: Gallywix's secret pleasure palace
New continent: Frigg - The dead titan. The enormous corpse of a young titan that used to live in the moon, but fell on Azeroth. Every biome contains running rivers of eternal blood. METAL!

Source: I am Chris Metzen's son's father.

[Samin]

It's actually been de-debunked due to two very important details:

1. Diablo IV datamined patch notes on Wowhead showing the name Torajan was renamed to Nahantu, the name used in the leak. This was a huge point of contention for people due to Nahantu not being a zone that existed in the game's lore prior to the leak saying so.

2. A Diablo IV dev saying (a while ago, I presume) that the new class would be something "never seen before" in Diablo. Seems consistent with the idea of whatever "Spiritborn" is.

Admittedly I don't actually know much about Diablo personally but after talking to people more qualified than myself, they seem to think the leak is still worth considering. It's still possible it was made up, but I wouldn't toss it in the bin just yet.

There was an actualy Diablo 4 leak though, my guess would be that's where the good information came from, not some insider source.

Can we go back to speculating on potential answers to the SoA acronym?

Has "Sword of Azeroth" been suggested yet? Or what about "Sargeras or Anduin"?

I still say it's Squall of Algarian Stormrider. But I would also be open to Strummers of Azeroth - featuring the new all-support class Bard.

[Woke it Up]

Sons of Anarchy, duh.
Explains the new fel bike models.
New class: METAL
New race: Demonaxx
New feature: Bike riding
New dungeon: Capitalism's fall
New raid: Gallywix's secret pleasure palace
New continent: Frigg - The dead titan. The enormous corpse of a young titan that used to live in the moon, but fell on Azeroth. Every biome contains running rivers of eternal blood. METAL!

Source: I am Chris Metzen's son's father.

There are a whole bunch of azerite weapons that are missing

[ercarp]

There was an actualy Diablo 4 leak though, my guess would be that's where the good information came from, not some insider source.

Indeed there was, and the leak that was posted on MMO-Champion doesn't necessarily contradict anything that was in the "official leak" (which was basically a list of file names as far as I can tell). It's in fact further supported by the datamining of them changing "Torajan" into "Nahantu" in the name of an item.

[milkmustache]

Indeed there was, and the leak that was posted on MMO-Champion doesn't necessarily contradict anything that was in the "official leak" (which was basically a list of file names as far as I can tell). It's in fact further supported by the datamining of them changing "Torajan" into "Nahantu" in the name of an item.

Team World Revamp lives to see another day, then?

[ercarp]

I still say it's Squall of Algarian Stormrider.

Imagine that. An entire expansion about a very special gryphon.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Again, we’re talking about their concepts in WoW, not in WC2 or in a novel. They were both conceived as dungeons in WoW, which is why they’re both dungeons.

Except Undermine was conceived as a neutral Goblin city in WoW. Both Dire Maul and Grim Batol were designed to be dungeons in WoW from the beginning.

Ya, No.

Concepts and game design doesn't exist in a vacuum like that.

Hell neither of them were even originally dungeons in wow, Grim batol was over ran by dragons and some where we couldn't go until cata as just like undermine it was cut form classic, and dire was just ruins in the open world until a later classic patch added the dungeons.

Neither was designed to be a dungeon from the beginning of wow.

Undermine clam chowder mysteriously sold in the Azure Span, and added in 10.0.7.

ah your right I missed that link while on my phone.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Wait hold on which of the "leaks" (heavy air quotes) are tied to the D4 leak info?

[D4NNYB0Y]

Chalkboard in 2023. Come on man.

I never said I thought it was real. Just cross-posting here for vis. Nothing else to discuss.

[Seiklis]

Wait hold on which of the "leaks" (heavy air quotes) are tied to the D4 leak info?

Secrets of Azeroth I think

d4 leaker said it was SoA as an abbrev

[ercarp]

Team World Revamp lives to see another day, then?

So it seems.

I'm not officially part of the cult team, but I can't deny, seeing EK and Kalimdor reimagined with modern assets and narrative design would be the One True Expansion for me.

Northrend and Broken Isles and all those other places are cool and all, but it always goes back to EK and Kalimdor for me. That's where the true heart of Warcraft lies.

[Pinksocking]

Wait hold on which of the "leaks" (heavy air quotes) are tied to the D4 leak info?

"SOA" being the title

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i am officially apart of the cult

[Nize]

Wait hold on which of the "leaks" (heavy air quotes) are tied to the D4 leak info?

Next xpac abbreviation being SoA