Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Demonly]

Going back to the SoA acronym: how About Seeds of Amirdrassil?

World revamp where the new world tree causes more change than anticipated, echoing the story of Amanthul ripping Ghanir because it’s “too chaotic”.

10.2.5/.7 can have story beats which feed this change. This will all be just 11.0 stuff which Iridikron/Xalatath being the main antagonists deeper into the expac.

Just a thought… seems like bringing a new world tree from a seed of the shadowlands would dictate some larger side effects.

Then again there’s a giant sword in Silithus still so meh.

EDIT: guess I should read the thread first lol

I like your title better than mine, but mine has "Surge" in it which is commonly equated as "electricity" which would have something to do with thunder "Storms", finally getting back to "Stormrider" as the mount name. Either or, I personally like yours.

I agree -- there's a brand new WORLD TREE that has come into existence over the course of.. ??? no time at all? There most definitely needs to be side affects.

[PotHockets]

Which is bad for a two faction game. You can't Just Lock out 50% of all players out of regional stories. That's why originally Stormwind was the last remaining human nation.

You're assuming the factions will still exist.

[KurtMash]

Stories of Azeroth
Sons of Azeroth
Shadows over Avaloren

[ro9ue]

All my friends know the storm rider...

yeah.

[Grazrug]

You're assuming the factions will still exist.

There is a reason most zones are contested

[Bsirk]

I am 100% ready for Elune vs Xal'Atath, with Xal being the Godess of Life of primordial Azeroth, and Elune "stealing" her following and role after Xal's death.

I would love for this to happen. I just don't have that kind of faith in the writers to pull something like that off.

[Woggmer]

If it's SoA, what about Shores of Avaloren?

Well, I'm convinced that's going to be the title. Avaloren is the continent west of Kalimdor and Khaz Algar is one of the zones.

No world revamp. No Undermine. No Emerald Dream stuff.

[Rathwell]

Shit, Orcs Again

The Dark Portal begins to glow blue before a whole lot of blue orcs burst through - a horde, if you will - followed by its proud warchief: Gar'nash Hellscream, the son of Zaela and Warchief Garrosh Hellscream from a different timeline. He now leads the Lightbound Horde, from a timeline where the orcs of Draenor more happily embraced the Lightbound's crusade and usurped the Draenei as the Light's primary enforcers.

They have now come to conquer Azeroth and liberate it from all enemies of the Light in the name of Gar'nash Hellscream, The Light's Hand.

[Catastrophy349]

I love Void stuff. Can't wait. I'm really excited for the "features" list.

[PotHockets]

There is a reason most zones are contested

No they aren't. Idk if you noticed but PvP servers dont exist anymore.

[Woggmer]

You're assuming the factions will still exist.

They're going to have to focus on factions again someday, as much as people loathe it.. That is one of the game's foundations.

[Izalla]

Un'suro.



You put more effort into that than Blizzard does!

We did pretty similar with Kalimdor although I went east with my Tauren stuff. Felt Mulgore -> Southern Barrens -> Thousand Needles was a comfortable flow, but I can definitely a see a case for Tauren stories to the west in Desolace and Feralas instead

I think Desolace was their original lands until the centaur drove them out, or something. I forget. I associate the zone with tauren for some reason. Probably because centaur. Didn't they think the Earthmother lived under Desolace but it was actually Therazane's daughter?

[PotHockets]

They're going to have to focus on factions again someday, as much as people loathe it.. That is one of the game's foundations.

Nah the factions need to go away for good. They've been holding the games storytelling back since MoP. That should have been the end of them.

[NoTimeToDie5426]

Nah the factions need to go away for good. They've been holding the games storytelling back since MoP. That should have been the end of them.

Faction war is half of the reason I play though, same with most of my guidlies. We love that theme!

[Rathwell]

I think Desolace was their original lands until the centaur drove them out, or something. I forget. I associate the zone with tauren for some reason. Probably because centaur. Didn't they think the Earthmother lived under Desolace but it was actually Therazane's daughter?

Yeah they have pretty strong ties to it with Maraudon being there, with their whole "Earth Mother"/Princess Theradras thing going on. I don't remember the details but the Tauren basically messed around with Princess Theradras thinking she was the Earth Mother and then she destroyed the zone somehow

[PotHockets]

Faction war is half of the reason I play though, same with most of my guidlies. We love that theme!

Good thing classic exists

[Izalla]

Reading through this thread slowly as hell, has anything relevant come from this yet, or just another toss in the bin?

Nothing to debunk it, nothing to prove it. It's in limbo.

[NikolaiShade]

Nah the factions need to go away for good. They've been holding the games storytelling back since MoP. That should have been the end of them.

At the end of wrath/starting of cata would have been the best time to ease the factions mechanic, when a giant metal dragon in cohots with eldritch horrors wants to destroy the world, territorial disputes become a tiny bit less important

[Woggmer]

Nah the factions need to go away for good. They've been holding the games storytelling back since MoP. That should have been the end of them.

SL and DF are examples of the story getting boring without them. Because both sides aren't in contention with each other, the outside threats have to be interesting enough to hold the expansion together, and the only threat that managed that was the Legion. And even then, Stormheim still included some faction tension thanks to Sylvanas and Greymane.

What benefits do we get out of removing faction conflict? (And I know Cross-Faction is a thing, but a gameplay feature shouldn't dictate the story.)

[22mage22]

They're going to have to focus on factions again someday, as much as people loathe it.. That is one of the game's foundations.

faction focus is dead in 11.0
more focus on the races