Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[matijwow]

Those harpy’s is interesting - could there be an elemental lord for storm?

There is a storm crow mount that was added into the files at the end of MoP but never used. Similar coloration with Raven Lord.
https://www.wowhead.com/item=104011/stormcrow#comments

[PotHockets]

Yeah worst case scenario imo is 13.0 and 2028.

Yeah I think that's a solid guesstimate on the window for it. I kinda figured it would be this one but it doesn't have to be tied to an anniversary and if they're gonna go all out on it then fuck it I say let them cook

[Biomega]

It doesn't also count as a point against it.

It absolutely does. Because if you have 100 blurry misses and 1 blurry hit, then something being blurry is most definitely a reason not to believe it.

Because guess what we don't get: 100 high-res super crisp completely convincing fakes. Because anything that is super crisp and high-res gets debunked immediately if it's a fake.

[Syphin33]

I contacted a very well known WoW streamer and all i got was "zipped lips" on it.

[Izalla]

I think the zone pics are fake, too. Damn good one, tho, but the aerie peaks eagle statue is a dead giveaway

It's a given away that someone reused an asset. Either a faker, or Blizz reusing an asset they already made an HD model for. We can't actually rule either out based on these images.

[Thomir]

I contacted a very well known WoW streamer and all i got was "zipped lips" on it.

Sounds like Towellie ...

[Izalla]

It absolutely does. Because if you have 100 blurry misses and 1 blurry hit, then something being blurry is most definitely a reason not to believe it.

Because guess what we don't get: 100 high-res super crisp completely convincing fakes. Because anything that is super crisp and high-res gets debunked immediately if it's a fake.

How many high res crisp leaks have we ever gotten in the past? The Shadowlands logo and Bolvar? Bolvar came right from the Blizz store so there was zero chance it was fake and people still disputed it.

[blaatschaap]

It's a given away that someone reused an asset. Either a faker, or Blizz reusing an asset they already made an HD model for. We can't actually rule either out based on these images.

I don't think blizzard reusing the asset can explain it being shown in this promotional shot from the exact angle some random screenshot online has it in.

[Ferlion]

Have we seen any of the animations for Gryphons with dynamic flying yet?

It just clicked what's bugging me about that gryphon. It's supposed to be a screenshot from a video. That is a really weird angle to have for an ingame mount, especially with the way the rider is sitting.

[Izalla]

I don't think blizzard reusing the asset can explain it being shown in this promotional shot from the exact angle some random screenshot online has it in.

It's not the exact angle. And a faker could easy go get a screencap from in game, just like posters in this thread did when they went looking for an image of the actual exact angle.

[PotHockets]

Have we seen any of the animations for Gryphons with dynamic flying yet?

It just clicked what's bugging me about that gryphon. It's supposed to be a screenshot from a video. That is a really weird angle to have for an ingame mount, especially with the way the rider is sitting.

Kinda just looks like it's mid Whirling Surge to me but idk it's too small to be sure

[Ashapls]

It's a given away that someone reused an asset. Either a faker, or Blizz reusing an asset they already made an HD model for. We can't actually rule either out based on these images.

I wouldn’t even focus on the quality of the assets. The staging of the assets feels off. Dragonflight zones are very wide and expansive. If we believe they want future zones to be designed the same way then looking at the zone with the statue and eagle head - why are they so close together?

[Izalla]

Have we seen any of the animations for Gryphons with dynamic flying yet?

It just clicked what's bugging me about that gryphon. It's supposed to be a screenshot from a video. That is a really weird angle to have for an ingame mount, especially with the way the rider is sitting.

I dunno if we can discount that either considering Valdrakken was full of fake dragonriding models flying around =/

With the efforts to make the world feel more alive, they could be doing more things like that.

[Ferlion]

Kinda just looks like it's mid Whirling Surge to me but idk it's too small to be sure

That is one of the reasons I want to check, but also...

The wing shape makes me think Grand Armored Gryphon, but I don't think that's how you sit on the gryphon. The head is too flat. It's why I kind of was asking about the animations. It could completely change it.

[blaatschaap]

I will say that dwarf looks great, that harpy looks great and that direhorn looks great. Still not sold on the shots based on everything else tho.

[Ferlion]

I dunno if we can discount that either considering Valdrakken was full of fake dragonriding models flying around =/

With the efforts to make the world feel more alive, they could be doing more things like that.

A fair point.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Welp, looks like that's the one. If that's a fake leak I am extremely impressed. It could easily be the best one we've ever seen.

The fake cinematic with the ghosts on the Stormwind docks was the most convincing.

[Izalla]

Those images look pretty good, what gives them away is their lack of creativity. It's literally just stuff we already have, mashed together in what looks like fairly generic environments.
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Think back om past reveals. BfA, Shadowlands, and Dragonflight all had distinctively new zones. Assets you hadn't seen before.

At best, these four show old assets from new angles.

But people immediately said that Waking Shores looks like Durotar. Azure Span was like Grizzly Hills mixed with Azshara. Ohn'nahran Plains was like Mulgore. Lots of comparisons were made.

Maldraxxus was just Eastern Plaguelands, Ardenweald was blue Val'sharah. BFA was pretty unique looking though.

[DragonflightIsFaaake]

Been seeing a lot of people sadly falling for these fake pictures when they've already been proven false... These are NOT pictures of the next expansion guys. Or if they are they're EARLY Blizzard alpha pictures. Trust me.
imgur com /a/ xayfjJM

[Viridiel]

Aggramar had his shield in Stormheim but Golganneth really has the power of storm. The thematic connection in Stormheim was really the warrior culture there.

Norgannon needs some attention though.

I was only really referring to the Agg'ora having names that seem to reference Aggramar. The Everward's name doesn't have anything to do with Eonar but obviously any Ordered Life-based area is naturally going to be connected to Eonar.

I could see an aesir vs. vanir thing with the Titans, despite those terms being from the non-canon RPG. Whatever name is given to them, there are silver Titans and bronze Titans and we don't know the reason for the difference.

I think they could actually introduced Amitus in a great way by having her be a fringe Titan who is responsible for the heresy in Avaloren, but the racists will have conniptions because she's Black and others will (rightfully) be annoyed at a new Titan being essentially retconned in.