Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Dracullus]

If the pics are real, and there isn't some huge surprise with the new continent, we're going maintenance mode.

You have 0 idea what maintenance mode even is, don't you?

[Catastrophy349]

Imagine taking 4 photos and creating your own “HEADCANON” to describe why this is bad, and WoW is somehow “dead.” This is insane.

[ercarp]

This bird statue literally from hinterlands?

Eh, doesn't look nearly as blocky as the Hinterlands statue. But it makes sense that they would have adopted the same iconography seeing as they also have gryphon riders. Just dwarves being dwarves.

This isn't really a debunk.

[Rathwell]

He has given us another acronym! To your stations!

Dream of Azeroth. We return from the Emerald Dream only to discover that all of Azeroth is now covered by the Dream and we get a full world revamp of Azeroth - entirely in green hues!

[Catastrophy349]

I’m literally flabbergasted. It’s not even worth further comments (after this one) because a conversation isn’t even worth the time. Please, touch some grass, seek help, this is not healthy. But go ahead, layout the ENTIRE expansion for us based on 4 “leaked” images.

[Yarathir]

He has given us another acronym! To your stations!

Dwarves of Avaloren!
Darkness of Avaloren?
Dalliances of Avaloren..!?

[keelr]

This bird statue literally from hinterlands?

Yes, a group of dwarves, who never met with the clans we've known up to this point carved the same exact bird that wildhammer clan has. Makes a lot of sense.

[Murlocos]

Honestly this is most expansions we got since vanilla. I understand one can dislike the direction of the game, the setting, the pics (fake or not) but let's stop pretend we didin't do basically the same thing in every xpac, what really differs is the degree of unknowingness of the places we visit

It's only the same if the criteria stops at "new continent/island" which I think is where some people get hung up on even if their issue is running deeper than that. Yeah, almost every expansion is about visiting new places, but it's about the framing of it, the context, etc. Northrend and Draenor are quite different from Pandaria or the Dragon Isles, even if they're all ultimately going to a new continent/island. The fear of fatigue is that they're reusing the same framing and setup multiple times in a row.

[M1dkn1ght]

He has given us another acronym! To your stations!

World of Warcraft: Dwarves of Avaloren

[ercarp]

He has given us another acronym! To your stations!

Dwarves of Avaloren! I knew it!

[Nyel]

Honestly this is most expansions we got since vanilla. I understand one can dislike the direction of the game, the setting, the pics (fake or not) but let's stop pretend we didin't do basically the same thing in every xpac, what really differs is the degree of unknowingness of the places we visit

And the importance of the ongoing events. Some expansions had an impact, others didn’t. Expansions like WoD and Shadowlands didn’t contribute anything or helped improving the overall perception of the World of Warcraft. For the greater context you could remove them from the expansion list and not much would happen as their impact is so meaningless. We don’t know where Dragonflight is aiming at, but right now it’s definitely more on the side of WoD and Shadowlands than it is on the side of something world-shaping like Cataclysm or Legion.

So even if those expansions felt similar to the ones before (we really cannot count Legion here as it introduced so many new things that are to this day part of the game), their overall lasting impression on the universe was way bigger.

[Nightshade711]

Just follow this hashtag on Twitter to see what crazy things people are capable of: https://twitter.com/hashtag/EpsilonW...=hashtag_click

This is a good fake leak, but it's not beyond the realms of what's possible for fans.

That is true. You know that if the picture of Undermine(?) were posted here after cropping out the chat window, certain posters would swear up and down it’s so legit.

[ercarp]

Dwarves of Avaloren!

Damn, beat me to it.

[Raetary]

He has given us another acronym! To your stations!

Doors of Awakening
Doom of Avaloren
Dusk of Ascension
Dreams of Avaloren
Donkeys on Azeroth
Dangerously overcaffeinted Adventurers

[Yarathir]

Yes, a group of dwarves, who never met with the clans we've known up to this point carved the same exact bird that wildhammer clan has. Makes a lot of sense.

Asset reuse is a thing, y'know.

The thing is that I can't tell for certain from here if it's an upgraded version or just smoothed out with photoshop and hidden behind other assets so people can't tell if it's the exact same model or an updated version.

[Nyel]

So much doom and gloom here. Four leaked screenshots and people are already claiming that the new expansion is DoA. Goes to show how jaded the WoW community is.

It rather shows how Blizzard has constantly lowered the bar and players‘ expectations of what Blizzard can and will deliver have plummeted accordingly.

[CaptainV]

Depths of Avaloren could be a name.

[Teriz]

Imagine taking 4 photos and creating your own “HEADCANON” to describe why this is bad, and WoW is somehow “dead.” This is insane.

How is it insane? Those pics look like a retread of the environments we’ve already spent almost a year in, and they simply don’t look interesting because we’ve already done it. If this is played on the big screen of BlizzCon as the new expansion, WoW’s going to take a massive hit, because this looks lazy.

[Yarathir]

Out of all the models in these screenshots, this one is probably the easiest to modify slightly to give more rounded edges.

Well, of course, and to uprez/redraw the textures. Sadly, I can't tell if that's the case in that screenshot.

[ercarp]

Yes, a group of dwarves, who never met with the clans we've known up to this point carved the same exact bird that wildhammer clan has. Makes a lot of sense.

Avaloren/Khaz Algar is just an excuse for Blizzard to add more dwarf lore/zones to the game. Of course they will have the same iconography, they also have gryphon riders and they named their home turf Khaz Algar (pretty similar to Khaz Modan). Blizzard is just trying to get ahead of the lore nerds who will point out how none of it makes any sense.

A contingent of earthen was sent by the titan keepers to investigate a geological anomaly in a fissure detected on Sector AR-938. In time, these earthen begun to display behaviors similar to those who had fallen under the influence of the flesh, despite being separated by a great distance and sharing no cultural ties whatsoever. To the keepers, the similarities were uncanny. Although both groups remained physiologically distinct, the earthen had started to refer to Sector AR-938 as Khaz Algar, and their behaviors, language, and demeanor showed many similarities to other former earthen groups.