Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Dragon ANX]

I thought people were already certain there'd be no 10.3 other than maybe a Fated patch?

Everything so far is pointing for no 10.3, but copium is always there

[Paula Deen]

Within the story that was presented in the Emerald Dream and legends of the green dragon flying over, on top of Aviana, the progenitor of the Harpies, saying you can't leave the dream, yes.

I.E. I think the implications we have is that Kalimdor/ known world is where the Emerald Dream is formed.

Dragon Isles and Centaur, at least, is part of that.

Creating a new continent, divorcing it from everything because it was sealed off, adding it in with the implications of heretics, then populating it with a race charged by the keepers (because who else would charge them), a new Earthen Variant, and wild God spawn linked to the Emerald Dream kind of just feels..

Less than what I would expect.

Wasn't the whole point of the book that the heretics all left to the new place to have a great titan free party zone with hookers and azerite? I feel like it makes more sense that it's populated by slight variations of the titans charged.

[Ferlion]

What about the green dragon that crossed the sea and formed a new flight, what was supposedly seen in the Dream years later?

Thats not what was said though.

It wasn't "she was seen in the Emerald Dream.

It was some dragons claimed to see her in their dreams.

[pacotaco]

4 zones for a patch -> prepatch into a world revamp, would be insane. Would blow my mind.

Legion had had 3 zones, a dungeons and a raid in Argus (7.3). It's not so crazy for 10.3.

[Selorian]

But again, if we’re getting 10.3, there’s a 0% chance that the next expansion will come out in 2024. And to not have a new expansion for the 20 year anniversary just feels wrong.

10.2 November, 10.2.5 January, 10.2.7 March
10.3 May, 10.3.5 July
Prepatch October, 11.0 December

works out to me

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Possible, especially if they're moving forward with having only two major content patches per expansion. But I think that would be disappointing to a lot of players.

The only way this works is if they have Classic+ to bury the new Retail model. I am still very much doubtful they want to do this at Blizzcon of all things unless they were pressured from up high.

They have overhyped this Blizzcon so the idea that they are going to use Chris Metzen to soothsay about a fucked up new Game Model is.. Absurdist theater.

[Picle]

Possible, especially if they're moving forward with having only two major content patches per expansion. But I think that would be disappointing to a lot of players.

agreed. brings to mind the general reaction after they announced annual D4 expansions

[Cheezits]

Actually yeah hold on there isn't a single new model besides maybe the distant Aggorand in the desert picture. EVERYTHING is a reskin.

[Osmeric]

Everything so far is pointing for no 10.3, but copium is always there

I expect they'll have a last major patch that just recycles all the previous major patches, as they did in SL. Once they've discovered a money saving approach that marginally works, why would they just abandon it?

[Nyel]

I thought people were already certain there'd be no 10.3 other than maybe a Fated patch?

I mean that’s pretty much the consensus, but the Avaloren leak feels so much more like 10.3 than 11.0 that people refilled their copium for the existence of 10.3.

[Draedarr]

I expect they'll have a last major patch that just recycles all the previous major patches, as they did in SL. Once they've discovered a money saving approach that marginally works, why would they just abandon it?

Considering that someone from Blizzard posted that it was not the end of the Dragonflight story yet with 10.2 could be lol

[Ferlion]

Wasn't the whole point of the book that the heretics all left to the new place to have a great titan free party zone with hookers and azerite? I feel like it makes more sense that it's populated by slight variations of the titans charged.

Look how much the races of Kalimdor/EK changed in 15-20K years.

Multiple Dwarves, humans, vykrul, kul Turran, various Troll and Elves.

For a place separate for so long, I'd expect bigger changes

[Nyel]

10.2 November, 10.2.5 January, 10.2.7 March
10.3 May, 10.3.5 July
Prepatch October, 11.0 December

works out to me

Oh, even a 10.3.5 on top of 10.3? And 10.3 just lasting for 6 months? And then it being supposedly such a huge patch? Suuuuuuure.

[Imotbh]

My question is, has Blizzard reused this many assets in the past when going into what's supposed to be a brand new expansion?

Blizz reuse assets all the time and in big quantities. It's simply mandatory if the devs want to create new content in a timely manner. It's always done and has always been done (not even specific to WoW but any game with a large enough world).

[Northelim]

The amount of people who think re-used asset = fake really goes to show they just have absolutely zero clue how game development works. Re-use of assets is very normal for a game development cycle. Do you expect 10000 new tree models and textures for them too any time there is a new continent? Whoever brings up "re-used" assets as an excuse that something is fake is not to be taken seriously.

[Cheezits]

Blizz reuse assets all the time and in big quantities. It's simply mandatory if the devs want to create new content in a timely manner. It's always done and has always been done (not even specific to WoW but any game with a large enough world).

Yeah but Dragon Isles at least had several creatures with new models including the Dracthyr, and several launch mobs are brand new. There's nothing really new in these pics.

[Osmeric]

Blizz reuse assets all the time and in big quantities.

All those caverns with the same geometry. Geology on Azeroth is weird.

[Picle]

Legion had had 3 zones, a dungeons and a raid in Argus (7.3). It's not so crazy for 10.3.

truu. tho Argus was a progression of the story that non-lore-nerds could pick up. 10.2.5 would have to be chonky with lore to make the connection to Avaloren

[ercarp]

Besides the dwarf, is there a single new rig/model? The ogre-type is hidden in the background.

The ogre-type creature looks like it might be using the djaradin skeleton.

[Rathwell]

All those caverns with the same geometry. Geology on Azeroth is weird.

Titans like symmetry and thus shaped the world accordingly