Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Cheezits]

There's no way they just add 10.3 in.

[Xorgz]

If this Avaloren leak is actually 10.3..... and we're going to get an 11.0 Void/Revamp reveal AND a Classic+ announcement......WoW will finally be saved (hoping & praying & coping).

[Teriz]

You’ve been pretty doomer about anything that wasn’t “your” idea tbh.

I think it would’ve been more lazy to use a location we’ve essentially been to twice before for an expansion (Kezan/Undermine) Likely they’d just reuse a bunch of existing assets, maybe with a fresh coat of paint.

Uh, we’ve never been or even seen Undermine before, and it’s doubtful such a location would reuse assets on the level we’ve seen in these screenshots.

Your “its bad because I think it is!” is a fallacy.

No, it’s bad because it’s clearly a rehash of existing content. It’s so bad that people here can identify the exact reused asset on a tiny screenshot and give us the name of the asset used.

You’ll excuse me if I don’t believe Blizzard is that lazy. If they are (now) that lazy, this game is in a lot of trouble.

[Kiria]

The copium for what now dawns on people might be a leak for this to be 10.3 is real lol.

[Demonly]

I am officially fully into these images being a 3 zone new "continent" on Azeroth for 10.3

- All the assets are Dragonflight/older, and required minimal effort to put in.
- This place was referenced at the start of Dragonflight.
- The fact that we still haven't been to "Uldaz" yet and an item was introduced in 10.1.5 that references it as a use-effect place.
- We've seen where they've added a 3 zone patch before in the past (legion 7.3 -- hey a .3 patch that added in 3 zones)

[Draedarr]

Considering that showing a 10.3 Patch and in the same event a 11.0 that will be the aftermath of 10.3 would not make any sense.
And even more that 10.2 comes after Blizzcon oO

[ercarp]

The amount of people who think re-used asset = fake really goes to show they just have absolutely zero clue how game development works. Re-use of assets is very normal for a game development cycle. Do you expect 10000 new tree models and textures for them too any time there is a new continent? Whoever brings up "re-used" assets as an excuse that something is fake is not to be taken seriously.

I'm not trying to say it's fake because of reused assets, just pointing out that it's a bit unusual for Blizzard to carry this many "old" assets forward into a new expansion. I'm no expert on this obviously (that would be @Marlamin), but when I look at the game files on something like WoW.tools, it looks like they've always made dozens of new assets for a new expansion. Even for things like trees and plants, which they could easily "get away" with reusing.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

10.3 is dead, the game model is going to Tom Chilton and Bobby Koticks Annual Expansion format!

[micwini]

Considering that showing a 10.3 Patch and in the same event a 11.0 that will be the aftermath of 10.3 would not make any sense.
And even more that 10.2 comes after Blizzcon oO

Unless 10.3 is a climax and 11.0 is revamp.

[ercarp]

Considering that showing a 10.3 Patch and in the same event a 11.0 that will be the aftermath of 10.3 would not make any sense.
And even more that 10.2 comes after Blizzcon oO

Wouldn't be the first time. Didn't we have this happen with Legion?

[micwini]

I'm not trying to say it's fake because of reused assets, just pointing out that it's a bit unusual for Blizzard to carry this many "old" assets forward into a new expansion. I'm no expert on this obviously (that would be @Marlamin), but when I look at the game files on something like WoW.tools, it looks like they've always made dozens of new assets for a new expansion. Even for things like trees and plants, which they could easily "get away" with reusing.

How far along are you with identifying all props on the image with a filename?

[Draedarr]

Unless 10.3 is a climax and 11.0 is revamp.

The major issue that i thought only after is that we don't even know what the ending of 10.2 will be
So the 10.3 being a climax of the end of 10.2 would kill the 10.2 ending in a way

[micwini]

Wouldn't be the first time. Didn't we have this happen with Legion?

7.3 was announced at some other convention iirc

[PotHockets]

10.3 is dead, the game model is going to Tom Chilton and Bobby Koticks Annual Expansion format!

If they find a way to actually do annual expansions with no drought inbetween then that would be amazing

[micwini]

The major issue that i thought only after is that we don't even know what the ending of 10.2 will be
So the 10.3 being a climax of the end of 10.2 would kill the 10.2 ending in a way

10.3 might just be continiung where the mega dungeon left off.

[Wangming]

Considering that showing a 10.3 Patch and in the same event a 11.0 that will be the aftermath of 10.3 would not make any sense.
And even more that 10.2 comes after Blizzcon oO

Wasn't Legion revealed before the final patch of WoD?

[Nightshade711]

Uh, we’ve never been or even seen Undermine before, and it’s doubtful such a location would reuse assets on the level we’ve seen in these screenshots.

We’ve been to it’s island several times. It would be silly to think it’d look any different than “Kezan but underground”

No, it’s bad because it’s clearly a rehash of existing content. It’s so bad that people here can identify the exact reused asset on a tiny screenshot and give us the name of the asset used.

How dare blizzard use a similar statue for the dwarves that have started behaving like our dwarves! Grr

Four still screenshots, likely one of each zone isn’t enough to say it’s a “rehash of existing content”, because you can do that with every expansion.

I guarantee we can find reused assets in every expansion reveal.
But you know, doomers gonna doom

[blaatschaap]

Considering that showing a 10.3 Patch and in the same event a 11.0 that will be the aftermath of 10.3 would not make any sense.
And even more that 10.2 comes after Blizzcon oO

not beyond the realm of possibility, vision of n'zoth came out two and a half months after shadowlands announcement.

[Murlocos]

The 10.3 theory is big copium to me unless you start buying back into old A/B team theories again. The idea that there's some secret huge dump of content behind the scenes that'll save everything.

If we're talking concurrent patch/expansion reveals, it happened with 3.3 and Cataclysm both being unveiled at Blizzcon 2009, but that was a long time ago.

[Well Done Steak]

So what, blizzcon is for 10.3 with a small hint of 11.0??? No way