Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Sondrelk]

Ogre child model feels like something they will use in the future.

Feels almost like a standard thing the artists make nowadays whenever they update a bipedal model. We got Tuskarr children, Gnoll children, Drakonid Children. It's honestly kinda surprising we didnt get Ogre children back in WoD when you think about it.

[Cheezits]

Feels almost like a standard thing the artists make nowadays whenever they update a bipedal model. We got Tuskarr children, Gnoll children, Drakonid Children. It's honestly kinda surprising we didnt get Ogre children back in WoD when you think about it.

Because they didn't really care about showing Ogre culture, the "Ogre Capital" was like four buildings tops. Good start but that's it.

[Nymrohd]

Because they didn't really care about showing Ogre culture, the "Ogre Capital" was like four buildings tops. Good start but that's it.

I think you should revisit Highmaul. It was way more than four buildings. I think the issue was that the Ogres were clearly only meant to be antagonists.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I don't see the issue with a monthly login. The ESO daily login is definitely problematic (and ESO has so many daily quests that are over rewarding to make you log every day)

Thats one thing, cause it just shows reward on day one day two. That might be overwhelming. More daily quests isn't bad though.

[Cheezits]

I really hope that we get a Gnoll raid, but sadly I don't see many areas where that could happen save for a mystery island appearing. The only "walled off areas" seem to be the Bronze Temple (Murozond patch), Forbidden Reach (??), mystery space next to the Dream portal (??) and Underground Azeroth (which is forshadowed at launch/leaked through data).

A lower-stakes Gnoll fortress raid similar to Zul'Aman would be really nice and flesh out their culture even more. And their aesthetic would make for great tier sets.

[Catastrophy349]

New stuff today! Spoilers! https://youtu.be/zwMp2lS1wkQ (I did NOT watch it, I hate spoilers). Posting for anyone interested, though.

[Sondrelk]

The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that the Bronze Dragonflight area in Thaldraszus will be the 10.1 area. Or at least where the main bulk of activites will take place.
Just seems so criminally underused, and so begging to be used for more stories.

[Dracullus]

Nice, we are considering PTR still in this year?

[Lady Atia]

The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that the Bronze Dragonflight area in Thaldraszus will be the 10.1 area. Or at least where the main bulk of activites will take place.
Just seems so criminally underused, and so begging to be used for more stories.

The Dracthyr starting are should be first, either with 10.0.5 or 10.1, with the Underground after that.

[Makabreska]

New stuff today! Spoilers! https://youtu.be/zwMp2lS1wkQ (I did NOT watch it, I hate spoilers). Posting for anyone interested, though.

Yeeee, I am glad we will deal with Rash soon, becasue this habit of suddenly appearing, taunting then flying away is extremely annoying and dumb.

[Cheezits]

Yeeee, I am glad we will deal with Rash soon, becasue this habit of suddenly appearing, taunting then flying away is extremely annoying and dumb.

It's a very pretty scene though. The "HQ ingame cutscenes" are absolutely saving WoW from looking silly, while also saving them a good amount of money.

Also they aimed Alex flying in a way that meant no clipping, I had to look again. Wonder what the implication is with the stone doing that?

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Nice, we are considering PTR still in this year?

PTR realms with the new build (10.0.5) are up, just offline AFAIK.

[Sondrelk]

The Dracthyr starting are should be first, either with 10.0.5 or 10.1, with the Underground after that.

I dunno, feels like Time shenanigans will be first on the agenda, with underground stuff being 10.2 to me. Usually the format of an expansion is:
X.0: Levelling questline/Ascended dungeon
X.1: Main plot being "concluded"
X.2: B-plot
X.3: Overarching storyline concluded.

Finding Tyrs memories seems like the important plotline right now, and once that is concluded we will start going for B-plot cleanup, followed by getting into the overarching stuff.
Underground was datamined as possibly being in 10.1, but I don't really buy that it would be a full underground zone. Possibly a dungeon or subzone.

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Nice, we are considering PTR still in this year?

If it is then I would imagine we are talking right at the very end of the year, like last week of December. Just seems like a waste to muddle the hype of the World First race by going into a PTR that most everyone will be too busy dealing with until the new year anyways.
Starting the new year ith a big PTR drop seems more likely to me.

[Cheezits]

I think Murozond will be near the end, as that is the only way Galakrond could be involved unless he is resurrected (doubtful) and Galakrond is currently frontrunner for the endboss. It will also work as a good storyline to gradually discover what it is that causes Noz to go crazy in the first place.

10.1 was leaked as the Underground, at least partially (it's at LEAST a dungeon, but maybe also a zone, and we have the Mole and Slitherdrake models). 10.2 could be absolutely anything (maybe Dracthyr origin focus?) and then Murozond/Galakrond timepatch.

[Dracullus]

The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that the Bronze Dragonflight area in Thaldraszus will be the 10.1 area. Or at least where the main bulk of activites will take place.
Just seems so criminally underused, and so begging to be used for more stories.

Previously I thought about Galakrond patch, but I agree with some people that rather Iridikron story with mirror it. Currently I think about something like this:

10.1 - Dealing with Frost/Fire incarnates, typical X.1 patch (so NOT like 9.1), Dracthyr area reused for patch zone.
10.2 - Underground zone, Iridikron, earth/lava theme, big focus on resolving Wrathion/Sabellian plot.
10.3 - Time patch, Murozond, Infinite, area in Thaldrassus will serve as hub for many mini-zones or will be launching point to 10.3 zone.

[Nymrohd]

New stuff today! Spoilers! https://youtu.be/zwMp2lS1wkQ (I did NOT watch it, I hate spoilers). Posting for anyone interested, though.

YEah I was expecting this to become available with the reset.

Someone should tell Alex that "This has to work" never works.

[Cheezits]

Previously I thought about Galakrond patch, but I agree with some people that rather Iridikron story with mirror it. Currently I think about something like this:

10.1 - Dealing with Frost/Fire incarnates, typical X.1 patch (so NOT like 9.1), Dracthyr area reused for patch zone.
10.2 - Underground zone, Iridikron, earth/lava theme, big focus on resolving Wrathion/Sabellian plot.
10.3 - Time patch, Murozond, Infinite, area in Thaldrassus will serve as hub for many mini-zones or will be launching point to 10.3 zone.

I was thinking 10.1 and 10.2 here will be swapped with Iridikron being killed first (hence why he is named first). They might do a dueling fire and ice theme, as they have a lot of primalist fire and ice assets already (maybe they use their powers make an island, which will be the one near the dream).

[Makabreska]

I think a council fight with the rest of the incarnates is more likely than each of them having an entire patch dedicated to them, it leaves more room open to other concepts.

If we are to get rumoured underground patch, then Earth drogon fits perfectly. But I don't see them doing any more of Incarnates fights after this.

[Sondrelk]

I think a council fight with the rest of the incarnates is more likely than each of them having an entire patch dedicated to them, it leaves more room open to other concepts.

All the remaining ones in one patch, two at most. Either all in one Council boss, or more likely spread out over several forms of content like questing and dungeons.
Something where we fight two at once, and the the fourth one in the final raid wouldn't be surprising to me.
Ice and Fire incarnates in the 10.1 raid or questing, and Iridikron in the underground patch raid sounds about right to me.

[Alanar]

Yeeee, I am glad we will deal with Rash soon, becasue this habit of suddenly appearing, taunting then flying away is extremely annoying and dumb.

I agree... , I cant believe they are still pulling the: muahaha get you next time gadget line every.. single.. time. Are we suppose to get angry at the villain for doing that? I

Its just offputting and extremely cringe imo

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All the remaining ones in one patch, two at most. Either all in one Council boss, or more likely spread out over several forms of content like questing and dungeons.
Something where we fight two at once, and the the fourth one in the final raid wouldn't be surprising to me.
Ice and Fire incarnates in the 10.1 raid or questing, and Iridikron in the underground patch raid sounds about right to me.

I can see them save one for the final final raid but upgraded with wing armor etc etc as like 4th boss or so.

I dont see them spread out these in and appear and follow them in every patch. There is just no way.

[Makabreska]

BDGG on normal Rasz, potential cinematic soon.