Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[ercarp]

@ercarp

It was pointed out. There's no World of Warcraft Awakening on your spreadsheet. That's been a standard since like, WoD!!

I could swear we had an awakening leak this year continuing the tradition.

I think there might have been one but it was for Classic+ if I remember correctly. I tried to keep the spreadsheet limited to 11.0 leaks exclusively.

[Cheezits]

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1717994763054411970

"Get ready for the future of Warcraft!"

they are so high-balling, if it is a mediocre Avaloren Island Expension, we gonna have a field day of hating.

The future of Warcraft: absolute dumpster-tier expansions!

[Paula Deen]

Didn't she later admit that the rocks appear to be new models and she couldn't find them anywhere, and was losing her mind over that? Her attempts to debunk also seemed to err a little on the side of wanting to disbelieve, because that bit with the dino collar just seems wishful thinking

It was also pointed out that the dino collar specifically, matched the pet versions pretty closely and the pet is an official Blizzard thing in the game already so her nitpick of that particular element is really funny because Blizzard did the same thing.

[Azalar]

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1717994763054411970

"Get ready for the future of Warcraft!"

they are so high-balling, if it is a mediocre Avaloren Island Expension, we gonna have a field day of hating.

This is what bugs me most. They're hyping too much for it to be uhhhhhhh Avaloren. As if they didn't know there'd be a backlash lol

[PotHockets]

Didn't she later admit that the rocks appear to be new models and she couldn't find them anywhere, and was losing her mind over that? Her attempts to debunk also seemed to err a little on the side of wanting to disbelieve, because that bit with the dino collar just seems wishful thinking

She had big conspiracy theory energy. Like oh no a spiral showing up that looks like a previous spiral?!?! Next you'll tell me they would totally reuse the same fire effect you shill!

[Rathwell]

The Dino collar exists on the battle pet version anyways, so might be taken from that as well.

Yeah, I do believe that to be the case. But that she so confidently put such a bizarre "debunk" on there just made it seem like she's not making an honest attempt at it, but rather just wants the images to be fake.

Likewise the feather headdress does not appear to match at a glance

[Paula Deen]

She had big conspiracy theory energy. Like oh no a spiral showing up that looks like a previous spiral?!?! Next you'll tell me they would totally reuse the same fire effect you shill!

@Arafal needs to do an Always Sunny style board with her images in the Hype Train image tbh.

[Ferlion]

Didn't she later admit that the rocks appear to be new models and she couldn't find them anywhere, and was losing her mind over that? Her attempts to debunk also seemed to err a little on the side of wanting to disbelieve, because that bit with the dino collar just seems wishful thinking

She did, but the general consensus is that wasn't on it's own a deal breaker for something like this. They'd have enough knowledge to make rocks by using the rest of this. Or it could be on a private server deal, or, or, or.

But again, there are other thematic reasons why this isn't real. Blizzard does trailers a certain way, presents things a certain way, etc. And there are a lot of inconsistencies with the screenshots. And then add in the website, which is just terrible, has obvious AI bits, and has races showing in the zone page.

It could be real. I'm hyped if it is. Avaloren would and could be fantastic. The quality of the game can't be shown by 4 screenshots.

But there's a LOT of inconsistencies that I think people are overlooking just because "But nu-Blizzard is bad so". And to be clear, it's 100% that they could also be cherry picked pictures to make it look as bad as possible from a disgrunted employee or whatever.

It isn't 100% fake. But it's definitely not something we should take as confirmed. Open mind and all that.

[The Stormbringer]

Oh that isn't a torch. Its a stick of butter.

AI Art is a wonderful tool. I need to get around to commission someone to do it better though.

Aahh, of course! Butter on a little metal pole/tray thingy. How foolish of me to not recognize it!

[Nyel]

This is what bugs me most. They're hyping too much for it to be uhhhhhhh Avaloren. As if they didn't know there'd be a backlash lol

Don’t worry, it won’t be Avaloren.

[Paula Deen]

Don’t worry, it won’t be Avaloren.

What happens if it is?

Aahh, of course! Butter on a little metal pole/tray thingy. How foolish of me to not recognize it!

Thank you.

[Rathwell]

It was also pointed out that the dino collar specifically, matched the pet versions pretty closely and the pet is an official Blizzard thing in the game already so her nitpick of that particular element is really funny because Blizzard did the same thing.

Yeah I haven't compared the collars, but perhaps it's simply the exact same collar scaled up?

And I'm not even making any argument in favor of the leaks being real here, I just think we have to point out that her debunk is not the debunk it's being presented as

[Gurahk]

very interesting that Classic's deep dive is as long as retails. Why would they need a whole hour to say 'its cataclysm'?

Go in depth about the changes?

[Floot]

Even if the Avaloren leak is real, there is bound to be much more impressive features in the game than just a new continent with 8 new dungeons and a raid.

[Hitei]

Yeah I haven't compared the collars, but perhaps it's simply the exact same collar scaled up?

And I'm not even making any argument in favor of the leaks being real here, I just think we have to point out that her debunk is not the debunk it's being presented as

There's an extra band on the adult. The pet's collar is a band with the "back" (towards the body) side having a lip, the adult's has lips on both sides.

This means nothing though. At that resolution you could make that modification in 60 seconds with a paint program.

[ercarp]

very interesting that Classic's deep dive is as long as retails. Why would they need a whole hour to say 'its cataclysm'?

Yeah, I'm also thinking there will be something more. I would be very surprised if they don't talk about Classic Plus.

[Cheezits]

Even if the Avaloren leak is real, there is bound to be much more impressive features in the game than just a new continent with 8 new dungeons and a raid.

Says who? Dragonflight only had that and new flying, plus talent trees and professions. So they can't do any of those.

[Azalar]

Says who? Dragonflight only had that and new flying, plus talent trees.

And if they expand dragonriding to the whole world it wouldn't be a new feature, just an extension.

[Murlocos]

They're going to hype up the products they want to sell to you regardless of whether they'll please a sufficient portion of the community or not. I wouldn't take it as a hint of anything coming next. A giant world revamp expac with a whole bunch of universally beloved systems updates would get the same pre-announcement hype as the most barebones safe expansion. Ybarra is going to tweet about how special and huge Blizzcon will be, he's not going to say "Blizzcon will be pretty good" or say nothing at all.

[Ferlion]

Says who? Dragonflight only had that and new flying, plus talent trees and professions. So they can't do any of those.

I mean, if completely redesigned physics for/and flying, talent trees, and a major profession revamp qualifies as "only" I'm really not sure any feature is going to make people happy.

That's all major and impressive.