Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Ersula]

Go in depth about the changes?

Honestly wondering about what they're going to do: Will they improve Cataclsym? What exactly would they improve? Will they sell it on being the authentic Cataclysm experience for people who missed it, because you can largely experience that in retail already. I know a lot of players would prefer a forever-Wrath realm more than a forever-vanilla realm.

[Trazzle]

This is what bugs me most. They're hyping too much for it to be uhhhhhhh Avaloren. As if they didn't know there'd be a backlash lol

I can't wait for everyone to be so wrong about backing Avaloren ha. Imagine them releasing DF 2.0 with dwarves... Granted, If Avaloren is 10x more that what's been 'leaked' we may have a good xpac on our hands but if the 'leaks' contain the main beats, WoW is f@#$ed.

I'm suspecting something much larger could be around the corner, something like WoW 2.0, retail as is goes into maintenance, low stakes WoW playground. But the real hype announcement is WoW2, new engine, fresh start, etc. etc.

1 more week!!! I'm hyped, I'd be stunned if Blizzard hasn't been prepping/working/planning on it's WoW 20year anniversary.

[Fentawow]

Says who? Dragonflight only had that and new flying, plus talent trees and professions. So they can't do any of those.

Well seeing how Talent trees/professions took an enormous amount of time to figure out and do if that isnt changing too much besides a row or two then I dont see how there isnt more that they put time into.

While I hope borrowed power stays away I dont hate the idea of having devs not hyperfocused on talent and profession revamps and instead on where to go next with the game.

[Gurahk]

I really don't care if it's Avaloren or not, I just want a more Warcraft feeling expansion. Whether it's titans or revamp I don't care.

[M1dkn1ght]

Says who? Dragonflight only had that and new flying, plus talent trees and professions. So they can't do any of those.

When wow was at its peak player base, the game was pretty light on features. More features != more fun / successful.

[Tanthalason]

Anyone know what the clip in the Blizzcon trailer with all the Naga facing off against a large sea snake thing was?

I don't think I've seen it before.

[Polybius]

Oh shit. Hopefully they don't roast me too hard for my hot takes if they look at the notes, lol.

Your notes are fine. Don't let Bellular "As a Game Dev" Gaming discourage you.

[Draedarr]

I can't wait for everyone to be so wrong about backing Avaloren ha. Imagine them releasing DF 2.0 with dwarves... Granted, If Avaloren is 10x more that what's been 'leaked' we may have a good xpac on our hands but if the 'leaks' contain the main beats, WoW is f@#$ed.

I'm suspecting something much larger could be around the corner, something like WoW 2.0, retail as is goes into maintenance, low stakes WoW playground. But the real hype announcement is WoW2, new engine, fresh start, etc. etc.

1 more week!!! I'm hyped, I'd be stunned if Blizzard hasn't been prepping/working/planning on it's WoW 20year anniversary.

Could be a new advancement in the Engine, last major one i think was when they added the new liquids in Cataclysm, There was also some more APIs being added (DX 11, 12) Could be Vulkan or something on these lines.

[LalaGamer]

So i see this passed 2k pages i hope we will get some kind of good leak in the coming days.

[ro9ue]

Didn't she later admit that the rocks appear to be new models and she couldn't find them anywhere, and was losing her mind over that? Her attempts to debunk also seemed to err a little on the side of wanting to disbelieve, because that bit with the dino collar just seems wishful thinking

She was right, but for the wrong reasons. You can make that collar by blowing up and warping the one on the small dino pet. Not the pillar.

And btw that triceratops is a hue adjusted primordial direhorn with some leaves photoshopped on.

[Teriz]

Irridikron and xal don't NEED to go underground to corrupt Azeroth. Just because he's the earth incarnate doesn't necessarily prove that, it's too simple. Iridikron is better than that. Ffs the dude struck a deal by going back in time to get a galakrond corrupted device. Dude is much more than his earth powers.

Just because they don't need to go underground doesn't mean that they're not going to.

10.2.5 will be a minor patch, no way they're going to release an entire zone for it. : /.

I didn't say they would. I said that your story beats sound like part of a patch, not an expansion. It's pretty much the exact same story we've been rolling with since the 10.1.

And yes I do think they'll be pushing that expansion, because once we kill fyrrak and the aspects get their powers, we're done.

Cuz that's what DF is about. The aspects regaining their powers.

All the Titan shit has been in the background and set up with iridikron. This is why the dude bounced in doti and Alex literally says to let him go.

Well we're not done because according to you we have more dragons, titan keepers, Night Elves, and mysterious landmass hijinks in 11.0.

Just like we have right now.

[Cheezits]

Anyone know what the clip in the Blizzcon trailer with all the Naga facing off against a large sea snake thing was?

I don't think I've seen it before.

Looks like Hearthstone but can't confirm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQn7jgdA-g8

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[ZyntosAran]

Anyone know what the clip in the Blizzcon trailer with all the Naga facing off against a large sea snake thing was?

I don't think I've seen it before.

Hearthstone Voyage Trailer

https://youtu.be/PfmUdCsr1nw?t=87

[flan1337]

[*]5:30 PM - Warcraft Rumblings - (Day 1 over)


Edit:

Yay 2K!

HAPPY Y2K EVERYONE ONE!! WOO!!

Idk how I feel about rumble getting a blizzcon panel but I guess it makes sense.

[Baraden]

Metzen is the one who turned Illidan, Kael, Vashj and Arthas into generic super villains.

How can you list 4 characters with completely different backgrounds and motivations and label them all as generic, that literally doesn't even make sense

[ZyntosAran]

HAPPY Y2K EVERYONE ONE!! WOO!!

Idk how I feel about rumble getting a blizzcon panel but I guess it makes sense.

Its a full game that launches during that day, of course they gonna showcase it.

[Ferlion]

Yeah. This dude I think, but I didn't look through screenshots beyond finding the right horn shape.

[Pinksocking]

bro we about to arrive to 2023!! LES GOOOOOO

[Hitei]

Well seeing how Talent trees/professions took an enormous amount of time to figure out and do if that isnt changing too much besides a row or two then I dont see how there isnt more that they put time into.

While I hope borrowed power stays away I dont hate the idea of having devs not hyperfocused on talent and profession revamps and instead on where to go next with the game.

We got our talent rework, main proffesion rework, rep rework, flying and mount system reworks, a lot of customization changes and alterations to transmog as a system.

I think we can expect a completely new version of fishing, archaeology and maybe cooking to round out the profession changes. I also wouldn't be surprised if PvP goes through a big rework. It's the one thing they've struggled to stabilize or innovate in recent years and it's popularity is in a bad place. It represents the last big existing evergreen gameplay that's dragging.

I kind of expect some new iteration of Torghast as well. Zskera seemed to be an evolution of the randomized instance construction on a much larger scale, 28 specific(?) rooms in a randomized configuration (Twisting Corridors was effectively 18 disconnected rooms). People keep thinking of Zaralek tech as something that makes underground zones, but it could just as easily be used in a hallway you walk down to load and unload entire new sections of dungeon without loading screens, like a Torghast without the portals between floors, where instead you walk up a staircase and by the time you reach the top the floor in front of you loads.

I think there are other major things they could introduce on the system level that aren't actual gameplay systems too. Like seasonal zones that asset swap several times a year.

[PotHockets]

@Arafal needs to do an Always Sunny style board with her images in the Hype Train image tbh.

I need that to be a thing