Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Kiria]

i found something about the "4 zones screenshot": it seems that the image originated from Photoshop.

imgur purges most metadata after upload, but in this case, the surviving tags make it possible to deduce what program encoded the image. as to whether it was completely fabricated within Photoshop, or simply used to composite real leaked images, idk.

still, some mildly interesting straws to grasp :Þ

metadata dump:

Spoiler: 

* = relevant tags
(my personal info removed, duhh)

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This proves it was edited in photoshop before it was uploaded, good find, meta data doesnt lie.

[Dnusha]

This proves it was edited

i mean it's not like you can combine 4 screenshots any other way, you have to use some editor.

[micwini]

This proves it was edited in photoshop before it was uploaded, good find, meta data doesnt lie.

BUT. Couldn't it have been the following: Since it is one image with 4 images, they could have used photoshop to put 4 images into one, putting them below eachother?

[Nymrohd]

If there is fated season, I don't see why people think it would be a full season. Shadowlands certainly wasn't.

I calculate Late August to Early September launch for next expac with the idea that we will have
10.2, 10 weeks
10.2.5 8 weeks
10.2.7 8 weeks
10.3/10.2.9? Fated Season, 12-15 weeks (4 or five rotations)
11.0 2-3 weeks before launch.

This means 40-44 weeks which means next expansion at 13/8-10/9/24

[kavikor]

This proves it was edited in photoshop before it was uploaded, good find, meta data doesnt lie.

yes, but can't ignore the part where it could've been used to compile the images together

some aspects just seem too high effort to me

the runic symbols of the claws on the dwarf carved in, the almost perfect blizzard-like glow

idk, exciting nontheless!

[Azalar]

It's actually easier to do that in mspaint than in photoshop ngl

[Nymrohd]

Guys call 'filler expansion' to expansions they personally haven't liked. The whole concept of 'filler expansion' is kinda off.

I mean it was not off for WoD. Everything we did in WoD only affected an alternate universe. The only thing that mattered was that Gul'dan got to our timeline.

[kavikor]

I calculate Late August to Early September launch for next expac with the idea that we will have
10.2, 10 weeks
10.2.5 8 weeks
10.2.7 8 weeks
10.3/10.2.9? Fated Season, 12-15 weeks (4 or five rotations)
11.0 2-3 weeks before launch.

This means 40-44 weeks which means next expansion at 13/8-10/9/24

Tbh I wanna see the expansion by July or early August at the latest

ik ik major hopium but again, im expecting a summer release because of 10.2 being possibly the last raid tier

[Picle]

This proves it was edited in photoshop before it was uploaded, good find, meta data doesnt lie.

certain image formats + image encoders make deducing the source muddy (i cross referenced other imgur photos), but yeah in this case it almost certainly came from Photoshop!

keep in mind tho, "edit" could just mean copy/pasting 4 images and then saving it out as a new image

[Raetary]

This proves it was edited in photoshop before it was uploaded, good find, meta data doesnt lie.

This really doesn't prove anything.

The leak is a column of 4 different images put together.
Obviously, the images had to be compiled with something.

[Nymrohd]

BUT. Couldn't it have been the following: Since it is one image with 4 images, they could have used photoshop to put 4 images into one, putting them below eachother?

Eh, why would you use photoshop for something like that though? Any basic image app will do it and do it faster.

[Harbour]

For a screencap.
Metzen comes on stage, does his trademark 'Horde! Alliance' speech. Tells how its good to be back and how important the 'War' part in Warcraft. He smiles in his beard, then tells about some screenshots around the internet about 'some Avaloren'.
He then tells 'The war is coming. See what is next for World of Warcraft'.
Then we see the feature trailer with revamped zones, playable Ethereals, armies of Light coming out of the Dark Portal and armies of the Void coming out of the dark purple realm rifts.
Title is 'Shadows of Azeroth'.
The whole hall goes crazy, screaming 'Chris! Chris!!! WoW is back!" and then forming the giant word "POGCHAMP". Metzen comes back in a purple and gold SoA shirt, tearing up, and raising up the Doomhammer in his hand.

[justwatching]

BUT. Couldn't it have been the following: Since it is one image with 4 images, they could have used photoshop to put 4 images into one, putting them below eachother?

Yes exactly.

[Picle]

It's actually easier to do that in mspaint than in photoshop ngl

Eh, why would you use photoshop for something like that though? Any basic image app will do it and do it faster.

agreed, that's why i thought it was worth posting. Photoshop doesn't mean it is fake, but it's weird

[Kiria]

certain image formats + image encoders make deducing the source muddy (i cross referenced other imgur photos), but yeah in this case it almost certainly came from Photoshop!

keep in mind tho, "edit" could just mean copy/pasting 4 images and then saving it out as a new image

Yes I agree, but there is also some image degradation due to how it was exported, it would have been easier and cleaner to do in paint if they wanted to do it as one image or just upload the images seperately, I didnt realise as I didnt look at the actual image that it was just 1.

Anyway im going back to just lurking, I'm slowly losing interest in WoW overtime, although I managed to finish Yakuza 6 tonight, it was great fun, LAD tomorrow.

[matijwow]

Got my dictionary for SoA:

Sabers of Azeroth
Sabotage of Azeroth
Sack of Azeroth
Sacrifice of Azeroth
Saddles of Azeroth
Sadists of Azeroth
Safaris of Azeroth
Safes of Azeroth
Saga of Azeroth
Sails of Azeroth
Saints of Azeroth
Salary of Azeroth
Sale of Azeroth
Salt of Azeroth
Salutes of Azeroth
Samples of Azeroth
Sands of Azeroth
Sandwiches of Azeroth
Sanitation of Azeroth
Sarcasm of Azeroth
Sauce of Azeroth
Sawdust of Azeroth
Saxophone of Azeroth
Scandals of Azeroth
Scent of Azeroth
Scepter of Azeroth
Schism of Azeroth
School of Azeroth
Science of Azeroth
Scooters of Azeroth
Scourge of Azeroth
Scrolls of Azeroth
Seas of Azeroth
Seasons of Azeroth
Secrets of Azeroth
Seeds of Azeroth
Senator of Azeroth
Sepulchre of Azeroth
Sequins of Azeroth
Seraphim of Azeroth
Serpents of Azeroth
Sextant of Azeroth
Shaft of Azeroth
Shape of Azeroth
Sheep of Azeroth
Ships of Azeroth
Shocks of Azeroth
Shrimp of Azeroth
Side of Azeroth
Silence of Azeroth
Sins of Azeroth
Skies of Azeroth
Slander of Azeroth
Slaves of Azeroth
Sleighs of Azeroth
Slugs of Azeroth
Smells of Azeroth
Snobs of Azeroth
Snowstorms of Azeroth
Soil of Azeroth
Solution of Azeroth
Souflé of Azeroth
Spaceship of Azeroth
Spatulas of Azeroth
Spiders of Azeroth
Spleen of Azeroth
Sponges of Azeroth
Spies of Azeroth
Squid of Azeroth
Stains of Azeroth
State of Azeroth
Statues of Azeroth
Steps of Azeroth
Stick of Azeroth
Stool of Azeroth
Straits of Azeroth
Stress of Azeroth
Stump of Azeroth
Submachine gun of Azeroth
Suits of Azeroth
Sun of Azeroth
Surf of Azeroth
Swab of Azeroth
Sword of Azeroth
Symbol of Azeroth
Syphilis of Azeroth

[Ferlion]

honestly if theyre cutting a whole season out of dragonflight (speculative) then we'd better see the expansion release by late summer imo

I'll be upfront, I really don't see that as an issue. I have fun playing a new season or expansion. IT doesn't matter to me if the new expansion is a year out to two years out, as long as there isn't a massive gap in content. Thus far, there hasn't been a massive gap in content, and Dragonflight feels like I've had more content even if it's a shorter experience over all.

The plan to rotation out Mythic+ dungeons has done such a good job at keeping me invested in the seasons.

[kavikor]

agreed, that's why i thought it was worth posting. Photoshop doesn't mean it is fake, but it's weird

I also feel like i remember ppl saying something abt the image data or artifacts were tampered with in the Bolvar shadowlands leak too and people claimed fake

and then we obviously saw how that turned out

idk what exactly the argument was, but i would say fake just yet based on something like this!

ps. not specifically trying to target you Picle, just replyting to continue this conversation

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I'll be upfront, I really don't see that as an issue. I have fun playing a new season or expansion. IT doesn't matter to me if the new expansion is a year out to two years out, as long as there isn't a massive gap in content. Thus far, there hasn't been a massive gap in content, and Dragonflight feels like I've had more content even if it's a shorter experience over all.

The plan to rotation out Mythic+ dungeons has done such a good job at keeping me invested in the seasons.

I think thats fine to have continous content, i just dont want to see fated take the place of actual new content and last as long as a raid tier would have

fated is cool, but it should be filler not a replacement for a brand new raid and new developed content whilst we still have to wait 2 years for the next thing

[Vakir]

'Splosion of Azeroths.

[Chickat]

Gotta wonder what they WERE shown, then.

My first thought was "maybe they were shown only a piece of the puzzle, like a partial revamp, but not the new zones, thus a lack of ability to confirm/deny," but even that would be knowing something.



This is why the modern version of "leak season" would be wonderful to be shot in the foot for a long time.

It usually causes the opposite. I can't think of the last expansion that lived up to the version in people's minds over the 2-3 months of speculation and wish lists since Legion.

If we found a way to create fakes that are indistinguishable from reality, not trashy AI and not total asset reuse minus one dinosaur, imagine how much more exciting things would be when people are forced to discount everything.

Yeah i have a feeling those pics are fake and that whatever is at Blizzcon will be hype. Revamp or not.