Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Valysar]

This is definitely fake, This area is already in game bar the added things like the tree close to the front, I can't remember if it was in Twilight Highlands or Grizzly hills, I lean more to Twilight highlands.

Nope, Grizzly hills

[Kiria]

I stand by what i said. The new talents are too the old talents what mythic plus is to regular dungeons

Hmmm I still dont know how to feel about the Talents in DF, I hate the way a build can totally change how your character plays, I choose single target talents and completely forget how to aoe, I choose aoe talents and totally gimp my ST rotation... why couldnt talents to add nice added effects instead of actually messing with how the rotation fully works? is this an unpopular opinion?

[Rathwell]

This is definitely fake, This area is already in game bar the added things like the tree close to the front, I can't remember if it was in Twilight Highlands or Grizzly hills, I lean more to Twilight highlands.

The correct answer was Grizzly Hills

[Nymrohd]

Hmmm I still dont know how to feel about the Talents in DF, I hate the way a build can totally change how your character plays, I choose single target talents and completely forget how to aoe, I choose aoe talents and totally gimp my ST rotation... why couldnt talents to add nice added effects instead of actually messing with how the rotation fully works? is this an unpopular opinion?

I largely agree that specs should change so radically between ST and AoE as they do now (at least for most of them).

[Darkarath]

OK I was watching Hayven Games' Azjol'Nerub video because it was posted in another thread and . . . the WIP version of Azjol Nerub had a world tree

Azjol-Nerub as a zone will happen. It is just a matter of time.

There is no chance in which we do not revisit Northrend in some way, especially since we are clearly going to fight the Titans and the Keepers. Most Keepers are in Ulduar, they mass produce armies there.

An Ulduar revamp would be an instant success. The Plague has always been one of the most beloved themes that could be revived through Decay. Dragons are there...

Outland already got a revamp with Draenor. That world is dying and chances are that we will never return there. But Northrend? Huge potential.

[Kiria]

The correct answer was Grizzly Hills

Yeah my bad, I was trying to catch up quickly, you lot have posted over 20 pages overnight, I knew I had alrdy been to a simular place in wow years ago and recognised it ina heartbeat.

I largely agree that specs should change so radically between ST and AoE as they do now (at least for most of them).

As a MM Hunter I absolutely hate it, for this reason I've stopped raiding and doing dungeons because I like to make my own build which is inferior to what people want in their groups for max DPS because I prefer to be able to do abit of ST and AoE damage, I really do dislike the current way talents work, I love the idea of the tree's but I hate the way they've implemented them.

[Rathwell]

High Elves.

We're getting high elves. Just veeeeery slowly.

Step 1: Implement Void Elves, make up some weird story why blue void-corrupted Blood Elves join the Alliance

Step 2: Wait a while, then give the Void Elves non-void corrupted pale Blood Elf skin

Step 3: Give Void Elves optional toggle to remove tentacles from hairstyles, give them regular Blood Elf hair colors (we are here)

Step 4: Make the Void-themed racials be opt-outable

Step 5: Add more Blood Elf hairstyles to the Void Elves, more hues of blonde

Step 6: Retcon the whole Void Elf thing and phase out the Void part entirely

[Nyel]

I'm glad no one outside of content creators gives a shit about ambigious crap like "Hype Levels".

You know what expansion had hype? WoD

Because their marketing for WoD was good and the timing with the movie was impeccable. The problems laid somewhere else and we all know that, don’t we? Imagine people being hyped for Avaloren: Yes, I’ve waited all these months to finally go to that unknown place we barely heard of and that was introduced just half a year ago. It‘s amazing!!!

That’s what I’m talking about. Something needs to be of interest to generate hype. And that interest needs to be rooted somewhere so it can grow. Hype works when it’s done correctly, we know that it didn’t work out for Dragonflight, so what’s the way forward?

[Chickat]

High Elves.

You have high elves. They are called void elves.

[Nymrohd]

Azjol-Nerub as a zone will happen. It is just a matter of time.

There is no chance in which we do not revisit Northrend in some way, especially since we are clearly going to fight the Titans and the Keepers. Most Keepers are in Ulduar, they mass produce armies there.

An Ulduar revamp would be an instant success. The Plague has always been one of the most beloved themes that could be revived through Decay. Dragons are there...

Outland already got a revamp with Draenor. That world is dying and chances are that we will never return there. But Northrend? Huge potential.

Honestly this idea that Khaz Algar could be in Northrend and the next expac is a Northrend Revamp is probably the one that has resonated with me the most this entire leak season. It just works in so many levels. Ulduar, Odyn, Incarnate lairs, Wyrmrest, Galakrond, a test drive for a revamp but on a smaller scale, multiple storylines that would bring the factions to the front (Taunka, Frostborn, Zul'drak), obvious most wanted underground areas (Azjol Nerub), Sholazar and Elun'ahir.

[Chickat]

Hmmm I still dont know how to feel about the Talents in DF, I hate the way a build can totally change how your character plays, I choose single target talents and completely forget how to aoe, I choose aoe talents and totally gimp my ST rotation... why couldnt talents to add nice added effects instead of actually messing with how the rotation fully works? is this an unpopular opinion?

I can see that. I do think they could still be improved. Some basic spells like an aoe spell should be baseline. But a talent that improves aoe dramatically. Definitely.

[Joszef Kiprich]

I'm all for a Northrend revamp, which kicks off an entire old world revamp. Yes please, thank you very much.

[Chickat]

I ran my numbers by the guys down in the lab, and everything points to this having a catastrophic effect on our page count by Blizzcon. At current estimates, it appears we may be as many as a hundred pages away from 2,500 by the time of the opening ceremony without Teriz, and that's a very conservative estimate.

Feelsbadman.

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I have to appreciate the effort in gathering us some real quantifiable data. However, I would not give up hope just yet. Theoretically, someone may broach the topic of Sylvanas, the faction war, etc. and cause a new sequence of pages-long digressions.

You are also discounting this:



being posted shortly after



We clearly have precedent that Teriz may continuously return to remind us how little he will be engaging in this thread. If we hold out hope that he will return to continuously talk about how little he plans to talk, we may yet reach our desired figure.

My research suggests brining up high elves can get us to the goal even without Teriz

[Darkarath]

Honestly this idea that Khaz Algar could be in Northrend and the next expac is a Northrend Revamp is probably the one that has resonated with me the most this entire leak season. It just works in so many levels. Ulduar, Odyn, Incarnate lairs, Wyrmrest, Galakrond, a test drive for a revamp but on a smaller scale, multiple storylines that would bring the factions to the front (Taunka, Frostborn, Zul'drak), obvious most wanted underground areas (Azjol Nerub), Sholazar and Elun'ahir.

What idea is that? Is there a leak about this? I think that I remember one but I am not sure.

[huth]

Vrykul would go with ogres, it just works.

Nah, some of the Ogres got confused and accidentally teamed up with the Alliance instead.

Or Horde gets classic Ogres, Alliance gets the Imperial Ogres we saw in WoD.

[Makorus]

Because their marketing for WoD was good and the timing with the movie was impeccable. The problems laid somewhere else and we all know that, don’t we? Imagine people being hyped for Avaloren: Yes, I’ve waited all these months to finally go to that unknown place we barely heard of and that was introduced just half a year ago. It‘s amazing!!!

That’s what I’m talking about. Something needs to be of interest to generate hype. And that interest needs to be rooted somewhere so it can grow. Hype works when it’s done correctly, we know that it didn’t work out for Dragonflight, so what’s the way forward?

Where is this "Oh no, we can't market this place because we haven't been to it before!" shit coming from?

You are essentially complaining that the expansion that isn't announced yet isn't gonna get the right "hype levels" based on... what?

[Chickat]

If the photos of Avaloren are fake, I'm going all in on Avaloren being the moon. #TeamMoon

Moon expansion would be incredibly hype.

[lanerios]

World of Warcraft: Soul of Azeroth

See you guys on the 3rd.

You have posted the following now:

"Next expansion has to do with this random elemental in Northrend! Trust me"
"Next expansion has to be in Undermine!!"
"Soul of Azeroth"
"Avaloren!!"
etc
etc

By this point you'll just say that you were right all along because you spouted so much insane theories that one of them might be right.

[Kiria]

I can see that. I do think they could still be improved. Some basic spells like an aoe spell should be baseline. But a talent that improves aoe dramatically. Definitely.

I absolutely agree We should have all our baseline abilities for our spec as some Classes feel VERY barebones right now.

[Chickat]

If it was a fake leaker making these he deserves a standing ovation.

It would be the most elaborate fake in wow history.

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I have this weird feeling that 22mage22 is actually the real one

Same. He's been pretty chill and believe me or not about the whole thing.