Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Joszef Kiprich]

Khaz Algar is Undermine. The earthen down there used to look like Dwarves but evolved to greedy green creatures, due to extreme exposure to Kazamite. After some recent incidents, especially those in the Motherlode, tinkers are forbidden and exterminated.

After complaining about the 4 zones expansions this expac will only have 1 zone and 1 3 boss raid. Dragonriding and normal flying are combined. In other words Dragonriding is reduced to normal flying speed and you can't hover. It wil be called World of Warcraft: MM
Maintenance Mode

/s

[Everything Nice]

Same. He's been pretty chill and believe me or not about the whole thing.

Which one was his? Wasn't that a generic Avaloren?

[Chickat]

If this is 11.0 "leak season," just wait for 12.0

Awfully presumptuous of you to assume we will have a 12.0. You know considering wow is in maintenance mode.

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november 3 will be a good day

Why are you so cutie patootiee. I don't know how i have a crush on a 20 post leaker but i do.

[Nymrohd]

What idea is that? Is there a leak about this? I think that I remember one but I am not sure.

No leaks whatsoever, just an idea we came up with a few pages ago.

[Chickat]

I bet the first person to admit they were DB Cooper wasn't lying either lol

Im dirty Dan.

No I'M dirty Dan.

[Rathwell]

Which one was his? Wasn't that a generic Avaloren?

This one:

new demon hunter spec is torment. dont look like support but not sure.
all race given shamans.
lands of conflicts are updated revamp like cata and textures
khaz algar new lands underground black stormy skybox and titan buildings opening hole in EK but go very deeper down to the center
new races in algar but customization for a lot of races. noticed no water races for algar. looks like might be a new patch for vashjir
new glyphs revamped new system like talent trees but in depth changes spells not power relating
small tree for races not power relating

I guess he means to say "No new races"?

It would be the most elaborate fake in wow history.

Can't wait for the behind-the-scenes!

[Chickat]

Legends

- Falstad Wildhammer
- Thrall
- (The green dragon lady in the emerald dream book)
- Odyn

World of Warcraft: Colonizers

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Yeah I really thought the weirdest part of Blizzcon 2023 was when Ion Hazzikoztas took the stage and just began reading everyone's Social Security Numbers aloud and passing a judgement of 1 through 10 based on his subjective opinion of how easy it was to say the number out loud.

It was also really bizarre when Metzen walked up afterwards and just started pointing at a blank wall yelling get ready for the Splash Mode and a poorly photoshopped image of Phil Spencer appeared edited to appear like he was fighting in the Dark Below Zone of Splashran.

I think you've had a little too much "herb" butter.

[Rathwell]

World of Warcraft: Colonizers

Somehow I feel like a Hemet Nesingwary story could be told there, then!

[Nyel]

Where is this "Oh no, we can't market this place because we haven't been to it before!" shit coming from?

You are essentially complaining that the expansion that isn't announced yet isn't gonna get the right "hype levels" based on... what?

I‘m not complaining, I’m arguing. Hype has to be rooted somewhere, as I said. Good luck generating hype for a place nobody has heard or knows of, especially when you’re coming out of your least-hyped and successful expansion yet that left everybody whelmed.

Why do you think was Legion such a hype coming after the - at that time - worst received expansion yet? Because it was the culmination of a story that was rooted deep within the Warcraft universe, had a decade-long build up and united / brought back iconic characters. Good luck achieving just 1/10 of that with something like Avaloren.

[Chickat]

I want a Fated Season that is everything. I want to be so disgustingly broken that the bosses we fight Run Away in Fear before we enter.

Run away little girl.

[Makorus]

I‘m not complaining, I’m arguing. Hype has to be rooted somewhere, as I said. Good luck generating hype for a place nobody has heard or knows of, especially when you’re coming out of your least-hyped and successful expansion yet that left everybody whelmed.

Why do you think was Legion such a hype coming after the - at that time - worst received expansion yet? Because it was the culmination of a story that was rooted deep within the Warcraft universe, had a decade-long build up and united / brought back iconic characters. Good luck achieving just 1/10 of that with something like Avaloren.

Legion was not hyped because it was set on the Broken Isles though. I think that was probably the least important bit about the success of Legion, especially because outside of the name, it has nothing to do with the pre-established Broken Isles.

You could rename the Broken Isles to Avaloren and Legion would still be a hyped expansion.

[Chickat]

So not that anyone cares but i somehow clawed my way from around number 50 by post count in this thread to 20 in under 2 weeks.

Praise be shitposting.

[Raetary]

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[Nymrohd]

Legion was hyped because Illidan, Demon Hunters, Artifacts.
But the thing is, we have no datamining to point to an expansion feature and neither is the story leading to one. What we have are a few possible locations so that's what we can focus. Avaloren might get its hype from some big feature we are not likely to consider because we think it is unlikely, like housing or class skins.

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Maybe add Khazm somewhere? Maybe in one of the underground icons.

[Pyrophax]

Outland already got a revamp with Draenor. That world is dying and chances are that we will never return there. But Northrend? Huge potential.

We can have storyline with evacuating outland inhabitants from annihilation. It could be prepatch of world rewamp expansion.
Horde players comes to Garadar to save our Mag'Hars. Geyara comes with us to see what is it - dying Draenor via Fell magic. Then go to Orgi'la for orges. Shadowmoon village, Thrallmar, troll post in Zangarmarch. Portaling Scryers to Silvermoon. Taking Tempest keep main unit to Quel'Thalas from Netherstorm.

Alliance - to Shattrath and Telaar, help draenei comes to Auchidoun to put their ancestors to rest, evacuating Aldors and brokens, Take Tempest keep satellites with them. High elves from Alleria Stronghold, Night Elves, Honor Hold. Maybe even arakkoa with them.

And faction agnostic - help Sporeggar and Area 52 come to Azeroth.

Netherwings are already here btw, Mag'Hars are ready to depart too.

And in rewamp - we could help settle them.
Sporeggar to Swamps of Sorrow, imagine it with glowing mushroom, majestic view.
Arrakoa - somewhere to NE lands, they love shadows and woods - maybe cured Felwood? And recieve blessing of Aviana to be cured.
Mag'Hars - both AU and MU - to Barrens (united zone, not parts) and Winterspring?
Ogres - in Kalimdor, maybe Dire Maul? Or take aestetic of Highmaul and build new city, maybe in Stonetalon? Somewhere near Horde lands, but not inhabited yet.

Place Satelites near Exodar, make New Shattrath with their parts. Flying Crystals, big city for every eredar (man'ari, LFD, draenei, broken, krokuls)
Tempest keep above Quel'Danas. Majestic city of Silvermoon with flying red stronghold filled with magi. That could work.

Then - close portal in portal room to Outland, make it via Caverns of time for raids and some content (yes, warglaves and a'lar should be earnable), move Warlock greenfire quest in Azeroth too. And be done with dying world.

[Nyel]

Legion was not hyped because it was set on the Broken Isles though. I think that was probably the least important bit about the success of Legion, especially because outside of the name, it has nothing to do with the pre-established Broken Isles.

You could rename the Broken Isles to Avaloren and Legion would still be a hyped expansion.

Okay, if you say so.

[Harbour]

What we have are a few possible locations so that's what we can focus.

Thats exactly why i believe all those quality leaks are fake. Like all of them only focus on the grains of the info circulating around since year ago when Bellular started forcing Avaloren continent.

[Makorus]

Okay, if you say so.

Legion was hyped because it's picking up the storythreads of the Legion returning, because it introduced Artifacts and Demon Hunters. Not because it was set on an island with the same name as ruins from WC3.

I literally was at the reveal; the room was dead silent until the first cool thing was shown (The tree with the face and Highmountain Tauren).

The room went loud during the Artifact reveal, and mental during the DH reveal.

No one cares about the setting because that's all it is.

[Harbour]

Broken Isles are way more hyped place than Avaloren. I remember at Gamescon 2015 during Wow panel i immediately got WC3 TFT flashbacks and was excited about that.

[Nymrohd]

Broken Isles are way more hyped place than Avaloren. I remember at Gamescon 2015 during Wow panel i immediately got WC3 TFT flashbacks and was excited about that.

Sure but the insane hype for legion was clearly Illidan, DHs, Ashbringer. I don't even know what feature would have a chance to compare. Class skins could if they are done right (since you'd be getting things like Shadow Hunter, Priestess of the Moon, Dark Ranger one after the other)