Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Makorus]

Broken Isles are way more hyped place than Avaloren. I remember at Gamescon 2015 during Wow panel i immediately got WC3 TFT flashbacks and was excited about that.

Sure, but Legion was not a hyped expansion because of the location.

Saying an expansion can't be exciting because the location isn't interesting is just doomer BS.

[Lady Atia]

Legion was hyped because it's picking up the storythreads of the Legion returning, because it introduced Artifacts and Demon Hunters. Not because it was set on an island with the same name as ruins from WC3.

I literally was at the reveal; the room was dead silent until the first cool thing was shown (The tree with the face and Highmountain Tauren).

The room went loud during the Artifact reveal, and mental during the DH reveal.

No one cares about the setting because that's all it is.

That's not true as we saw the paladin with an ashbringer before they even showed the "new continent: broken isles" text.

Btw, I'm still sad they never added the little lore snippets for the different artifact skins as with the preview trailer. Would have been a lot better than just pretending they never existed in lore lol.

[Teriz]

Sure, but Legion was not a hyped expansion because of the location.

Saying an expansion can't be exciting because the location isn't interesting is just doomer BS.

And yet every expansion takes place in an interesting location that is steeped in Warcraft history or lore.

[Makorus]

That's not true as we saw the paladin with an ashbringer before they even showed the "new continent: broken isles" text.

If you think that anyone even noticed that was the Ashbringer from like the 6-7 frames you can see it, you are incredibly deluded.

I mean, hell, here's the live reaction anyway.

[Makorus]

And yet every expansion takes place in an interesting location that is steeped in Warcraft history or lore.

And Avaloren can't be steeped in Warcraft history or lore... why?

[Lady Atia]

If you think that anyone even noticed that was the Ashbringer from like the 6-7 frames you can see it, you are incredibly deluded.

I mean, hell, here's the live reaction anyway.

Well, I noticed it instantly?

[Raetary]

And Avaloren can't be steeped in Warcraft history or lore... why?

????

Maybe because the place exists solely as a name, for not even a year?

[Moth Preacher]

The suspense this 4 screenshots leak has caused is hilarious, the forum is tingling with anticipation of some other credible leak, that doesn't support the previous one lmao.

Doktor turn off my copium inhibitors, we're going to K'aresh!

[Makorus]

Well, I noticed it instantly?

I mean, that's good for you. Even if people noticed it, it doesn't really mean anything without the knowledge that Artifact weapons are a thing.

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????

Maybe because the place exists solely as a name, for not even a year?

Just like the Dragon Isles?

[Teriz]

And Avaloren can't be steeped in Warcraft history or lore... why?

Because it was first mentioned in 10.0.7. Broken Isles in comparison first appeared in WC3, over a decade before it appeared in Legion, and it housed the Tomb of Sargeras.

[Rathwell]

I just really, really do not want another playable race that was made up on the spot. We still haven't gotten Ogres or Vrykul, so if they make some bizarre playable Mutant-Dwarf playable for this expansion I'm going to lose it. Literally nobody asked for it.

[Makorus]

Because it was first mentioned in 10.0.7. Broken Isles in comparison first appeared in WC3, over a decade before it appeared in Legion, and it housed the Tomb of Sargeras.

Something doesn't need to have it's whole backstory explained 10 years in advance to have relevance to the story and setting of an universe.

[Teriz]

Something doesn't need to have it's whole backstory explained 10 years in advance to have relevance to the story and setting of an universe.

No, but that's been Blizzard's playbook for all of their expansions up to this point. Why would they deviate from that when we still have lore locations to visit?

[Makorus]

No, but that's been Blizzard's playbook for all of their expansions up to this point. Why would they deviate it from that when we still have lore locations to visit?

Because that's the story they wanna tell?
"Nooo, you cant use new locations without going to Undermine first!!!"

[ZyntosAran]

I mean, that's good for you. Even if people noticed it, it doesn't really mean anything without the knowledge that Artifact weapons are a thing.

Bro what?
The ashbringer is visible for a good 5 seconds, with even the customization screen, and at exactly the moment it was shown, the crowd goes wild.

[Makorus]

Bro what?
The ashbringer is visible for a good 5 seconds, with even the customization screen, and at exactly the moment it was shown, the crowd goes wild.

He was referencing the start of the trailer.

[Varodoc]

Because it was first mentioned in 10.0.7. Broken Isles in comparison first appeared in WC3, over a decade before it appeared in Legion, and it housed the Tomb of Sargeras.

Agreed.

Before Legion was announced, most people knew that the Broken Isles would appear in some way, because two major, iconic, well-known landmarks were there; the Tomb of Sargeras and the Ruins of Suramar.

Although a lot of people also thought that it would be an Azshara-centred expansion, since the ruined Suramar and Tomb in WC3 were overrun with Naga. I remember that many theorized Gul'dan would team up with Azshara somehow.

This is a far cry from Avaloren. Avaloren was literally made up a few months ago and it has no landmarks that actually matter to the playerbase, because it was made up a few months ago and was literally never seen before.

While the Broken Isles were a major setting in WC3 TFT and people wanted to see the famous Tomb of Sargeras and ruins of Suramar. Afaik, the Broken Isles were even on early maps of Classic WoW.

The Broken Isles and Avaloren are completley incomparable.

[ZyntosAran]

He was referencing to the start of the trailer.

nvm then /10char

[Raetary]

Just like the Dragon Isles?

No, because the Draon isles existed in name for the last 18 years before it got made into an expansion, and received fanfare during that entire period.
It was a widely known piece of cut vanilla content.

Avaloren doesn't have 18 years of content creators and fans speculating about its existence and concept, it has a mention in a book from just 3/4 patches ago that just started to enter the communities collective consciousness.

[Nymrohd]

Just like the Dragon Isles?

Dragon Isles have been part of every expansion speculation since the start. It was known cut content, for a long while people believed that initial zone map (the one that ended with some Burning Throne Sargeras zone). It also ties with the generic idea of a dragon expansion.

Avaloren is a blank slate added with the DF prepatch.