Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

The 64x64 limit has been in place since the earliest available WoW build, if they really wanted to make larger maps they could bump it (although it might take some work to bump it through all the places that assume a set size).

Sounds dangerous. I remember when we simply tried to double the string size on a field on our ERP and almost every form just crashed when it tried to load that field. And we had to reformat every printing form . . .

[Rathwell]

Jesus this thread is more like therapy session than place to hype up. Whiners always ruin everything.

Energy might've been very different if the leaked screens had things people were excited about. Imagine if there was a new class being showcased. Right now there's a little bit of a weird energy happening because the only really visual leak we've gotten had nothing to get people hyped

[Izalla]

If I had found or will find a full-on leak I don't think I'd share it this close to BlizzCon, outside of the classic datamining on encrypted things I've already posted about I don't think I'll be doing any looking around before BlizzCon.

If you find anything that can stop the doomposting around the screenshots that would be lovely thanks.

[Pyrophax]

I find it difficult to believe it would work over a timescale that large. Issues would arise when a concept doesn't work, but the developers are committed to the idea for the remaining duration.

With the Marvel timeline that isn't such an issue because if a movie is terrible it's already over. You don't have to keep watching the terrible movie unfold it's plot for months while waiting for something new.

It can work with massive rewamp of Azeroth theme.
Big roadmap like:
11.0 - rewamp of Kalimdor
11.1 - NE part
11.2 - Horde part
11.3 - sand part. Old gods and titan stuff
12.0 - EK
12.1-3 Parts of EK
13.0 Rewamp of Northrend.
13.1-3 - patches.

[Izalla]

Have you met the Keepers? They do NOTHING themselves. They are the middle management from hell and they will have those earthen stop working from home so they can pretend they actually do something when the Titans come to check.

Yeah but they wouldn't have to send them away. If you're exploring something on your front lawn you probably go back in the house after, not pitch a tent then build a house then build a civilization.

[Nymrohd]

Yeah but they wouldn't have to send them away. If you're exploring something on your front lawn you probably go back in the house after, not pitch a tent then build a house then build a civilization.

I mean the idea was that the fissure would be between Northrend and Dragon Isles. They build Uldorus and send titanforged there, they didn't commute to Ulduar. Archavon wasn't picking the Ulduar Tram to get back home every day after his shift at the Vault.

[Catastrophy349]

5 days, people! We are SO close to a HUGE event! BlizzCon 2023! Let's get pumped for the FUTURE of Warcraft!

[lanerios]

I'm cool with the idea of Tinker as I now know DR and Necro are never going to happen and I don't know if there are anymore classes out there that would be made into WoW, but more choices are always nice.

tbh, I'd much rather have the game expand into more specs and add "classes" like that.

Rogue can get Tinker/Bard? Either works. The main issue is that neither work on any other class really
Death Knight can get Necromancer
Stuff like that.

Would be a lot more interesting than adding yet another class or 4.

[Kiria]

tbh, I'd much rather have the game expand into more specs and add "classes" like that.

Rogue can get Tinker/Bard? Either works. The main issue is that neither work on any other class really
Death Knight can get Necromancer
Stuff like that.

Would be a lot more interesting than adding yet another class or 4.

I love the idea of more specs and being able to change spell effects, the more choices the better, only problem is balance, Blizz have this need to try balance everything and they would have issues with balancing so many specs/classes sadly.

[Everything Nice]

Holy shit Hanna!!!!! You're back <3

HI! I lurk. Trying to keep up with lore but I've missed a toooon in WoW it seems!

[Teriz]

tbh, I'd much rather have the game expand into more specs and add "classes" like that.

Rogue can get Tinker/Bard? Either works. The main issue is that neither work on any other class really
Death Knight can get Necromancer
Stuff like that.

Would be a lot more interesting than adding yet another class or 4.

Thing is, WoW is missing a technology class. Pretty much every other MMO has one, but it is an archetype sorely missing in WoW class lineup.

This omission is all the more glaring when you have 3 races whose lore revolves around technology yet can't be a tech-based class. Meanwhile their faction leaders literally ride around and fight inside mechs Gundam-style.

Rogues and Hunters can do a lot of things, but support a spec that fights inside a giant robot suit isn't one of them. It simply doesn't match their class archetype, and it doesn't make much sense.

[Rathwell]

I love the idea of more specs and being able to change spell effects, the more choices the better, only problem is balance, Blizz have this need to try balance everything and they would have issues with balancing so many specs/classes sadly.

In fairness, that need stems from the community blowing up a little if a spec is temporarily at the bottom of meters. It's first and foremost a playerbase thing

[Kiria]

In fairness, that need stems from the community blowing up a little if a spec is temporarily at the bottom of meters. It's first and foremost a playerbase thing

Oh yes totally, Blizz try to please everyone but ends up upsetting most of their players, they just cant win sometimes.

[lanerios]

I love the idea of more specs and being able to change spell effects, the more choices the better, only problem is balance, Blizz have this need to try balance everything and they would have issues with balancing so many specs/classes sadly.

Sadly I have to agree. I would love to get more specs, and more support/stuff changing it up.

Finally add a spec that uses bows/guns besides hunters
Make wands actually useful again etc.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I largely noped out due to the constant bickering about those obviously fake screenshots. Now that that has subsided, I decided to pop in for a moment and say hello.

Hello Hansworst.

And I dared to bet on subtlety in his deviation from his promise; a tragic lesson to be learned in that.

[Kiria]

Sadly I have to agree. I would love to get more specs, and more support/stuff changing it up.

Finally add a spec that uses bows/guns besides hunters
Make wands actually useful again etc.

I would love to see the Demon Hunters with Crossbows or 1h crossbows D3 style even pistols would be cool, I mean we've seen alsorts of weapons in WoW so far, that would be totally epic hehe

[Baraden]

Thing is, WoW is missing a technology class. Pretty much every other MMO has one, but it is an archetype sorely missing in WoW class lineup.

This omission is all the more glaring when you have 3 races whose lore revolves around technology yet can't be a tech-based class. Meanwhile their faction leaders literally ride around and fight inside mechs Gundam-style.

Rogues and Hunters can do a lot of things, but support a spec that fights inside a giant robot suit isn't one of them. It simply doesn't match their class archetype, and it doesn't make much sense.

I never really was on board with tinker as a class; but it's insane we got the complete asspull scalie evoker class before them

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I would love to see the Demon Hunters with Crossbows or 1h crossbows D3 style even pistols would be cool, I mean we've seen alsorts of weapons in WoW so far, that would be totally epic hehe

Since Outlaw Rogue and Surv hunter have a one handed pistol animation; I've been waiting for the spec or class that gets to rock dual pistols/crossbows

[Rathwell]

I never really was on board with tinker as a class; but it's insane we got the complete asspull scalie evoker class before them

I assume Blizzard feels that the player base is less likely to be interested in a class tied to goblins and gnomes than to something dragon-related. Gnomes haven't exactly been the most popular through the game

[Leowyld]

I assume Blizzard feels that the player base is less likely to be interested in a class tied to goblins and gnomes than to something dragon-related. Gnomes haven't exactly been the most popular through the game

If we did get Tinker, it would be for all races. I practically guarantee it. They are moving in an all races/all classes direction, anyway, but we also have the fact that the last two new classes had race restrictions. We haven't had a proper class that at least most races (now all) can play since MoP.

[Baraden]

I assume Blizzard feels that the player base is less likely to be interested in a class tied to goblins and gnomes than to something dragon-related. Gnomes haven't exactly been the most popular through the game

Tinker makes sense for quite a few races though

Human
Gnomes
Draenei

Orcs
Goblins
Blood Elves

There's your races right there, everyone is happy