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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    Weird, I can’t see Gallywix inside his mech. Or ANY of the goblin mechs added in BfA.
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    You do know that Tinkers would get their own mechs right?

    Then it’s not steampunk. It’s steampunk inspired.
    And its still much more closer to Steampunk than this;



    Which wouldn't be out of place in Star Craft.

    Again we’re beyond that at this point. Hell, the LFDs racial is literally an orbital laser fired from a space ship in orbit.
    There's nothing wrong with giving individual races crazy stuff. The problem is when you spread the crazy stuff into classes that any race can roll into. A class where every race can hop into a mech, fly around and shoot lasers from space at each other turns WoW into something it wasn't meant to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catastrophy349 View Post
    What are you most excited about for BlizzCon? Additionally, what are you least excited about? Be honest and bounce ideas off one another!
    The 11.0 announcement.

    As for least. Literally anything else that isn't Warcraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rathwell View Post
    Then, the ground begins to shake and a huge drill machine breaks through. A hatch opens and a Dwarf pops out shouting, "Quickly! There's no time to explain! We must immediately go to the World of Warcraft: Undermine!"
    I heard we will be getting Shadowlands 2 with the Imprisoner, Mr. Jay Lore's more evil twin brother and the much anticipated return of Sylvanas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catastrophy349 View Post
    What are you most excited about for BlizzCon?
    Naturally excited about 11.0, but -very- curious to see what they end up doing with 1.15 (and I guess whatever makes Cataclysm Classic special).

    Also, the reactions in this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catastrophy349 View Post
    Additionally, what are you least excited about?
    Also the reactions in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catastrophy349 View Post
    What are you most excited about for BlizzCon? Additionally, what are you least excited about? Be honest and bounce ideas off one another!
    Respectively:

    Chris Metzen hopefully delivering something he is genuinely passionate about because his vision of Azeroth (and Sam et al) is/was my favorite.

    and

    Anything related to OW2; I played a ton of OW on release back in the day but as they added heroes I lost interest and the "sequel" removed any realistic possibility I ever reinstall.
    (If "least excited" has to be WoW-related then I suspect I am least excited for the Q&A because I fear it will be too heavily curated with softball fluff, though I'd love to be surprised!)

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    We all should've known better. In our attempt to spike up the page numbers, again we unleashed another Tinker back and forth. Will we ever learn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catastrophy349 View Post
    What are you most excited about for BlizzCon? Additionally, what are you least excited about? Be honest and bounce ideas off one another!
    I'm least excited for any announcement which isnt world revamp. Sorry but at this point I had enough of "There is a continent we never heard of, was hidden the entire time BS". Pandaria was okay, Dragon Isles was already forced. I don't want a bigger world, i want to enjoy the current one. We had 13 years with these quests, it can go, other story can take its place.

    aaaaaand I'm the most excited for: World revamp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    You do know that Tinkers would get their own mechs right?
    Huh?
    Didn’t say they wouldn’t? Still the point being that the races don’t NEED to be visible in them.

    And its still much more closer to Steampunk than this;



    Which wouldn't be out of place in Star Craft.



    There's nothing wrong with giving individual races crazy stuff. The problem is when you spread the crazy stuff into classes that any race can roll into. A class where every race can hop into a mech, fly around and shoot lasers from space at each other turns WoW into something it wasn't meant to be.
    Ironic because that kind of stuff has been in the game for the majority of wow’s lifetime.
    The second expansion of WoW introduced Draenei technology & inter-dimensional space ships.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    The point is that what Paladins are doing can rather easily be considered hi-tech artificing.
    Lightborne/Guardian of Ancient Kings race concept

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baraden View Post
    Humans use the light, Tauren use An'she, Zandalari trolls use loa; yet all can be Paladins
    Not the same thing, since those races were brought into the Paladin class in order to balance out the factions. Same thing happened with Shaman and Druids. We don't need that for a Tinker class since both factions would get two races each.

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    I noticed we've had 30 pages since I last checked, did we get anything new or is it just more discussion about the leaks being fake/real?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catastrophy349 View Post
    What are you most excited about for BlizzCon? Additionally, what are you least excited about? Be honest and bounce ideas off one another!
    Most Excited :

    World Revamp expansion with 4th specs added to certain classes that need them (return of ranged survival etc)

    Least Excited :

    Avaloren

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Not the same thing, since those races were brought into the Paladin class in order to balance out the factions. Same thing happened with Shaman and Druids. We don't need that for a Tinker class since both factions would get two races each.
    Tbh Vulpera tinkers don’t make any more sense lore wise than Draenei or Nightborne/Belf tinkers. (Hell even Mag’har fit the ‘tinker’ thing better than Vulpera)
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    The point is that what Paladins are doing can rather easily be considered hi-tech artificing.
    Lightborne/Guardian of Ancient Kings race concept

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baraden View Post
    I just want Survival to be the ranged class it always was

    Melee survival is the worst decision they've ever made regarding class design
    I'd have made it a spear-throwing spec that has less range (say, 25y) but more mobility than other Hunter specs and a couple abilities that bring you in melee/launch you out of it. The fantasy would have been to weaken foes with ranged throws, grenades, and traps then close in for the kill. I do like the current theme of fighting alongside your pet but it's still weird to toss bombs at someone who's right in your face. And Hunter players didn't sign up to play a fully melee spec to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catastrophy349 View Post
    What are you most excited about for BlizzCon? Additionally, what are you least excited about? Be honest and bounce ideas off one another!
    Seeing Metzen back on stage is going to be a treat, but I hear it was super anxiety-inducing and difficult for him, so with that in mind I suppose I'd be a little worried about him as well. But I love the energy and crowd work he'd always bring for the announcements! He's a rock star at heart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    It would be super weird if we ever go back to the Azerite stuff after we’ve completely ignored it for two expansions.
    It can be just a cinematic but not true, If I can recall also Jailer was linket to azerite

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Not the same thing, since those races were brought into the Paladin class in order to balance out the factions. Same thing happened with Shaman and Druids. We don't need that for a Tinker class since both factions would get two races each.
    It is exactly the same thing; it shows that races can have different lore behind why they can be a class if Blizzard so desires

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    but -very- curious to see what they end up doing with 1.15 (and I guess whatever makes Cataclysm Classic special).
    I'm super curious to see what they're doing with Classic, I don't think the hype is as big in this thread because it's mostly retail-focused but I've been seeing nothing but wild speculation about 1.15, the new classic season, Cataclysm, etc in my personal circles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    Huh?
    Didn’t say they wouldn’t? Still the point being that the races don’t NEED to be visible in them.
    You used GMOD, an established mech already in the game. I'm saying that a Tinker class would get a unique, class only type of mech. Blizzard isn't going to offer one race a mech where they can see the pilot and another where they transform into a robot or only get a claw pack. That's not how it works.

    Ironic because that kind of stuff has been in the game for the majority of wow’s lifetime.
    The second expansion of WoW introduced Draenei technology & inter-dimensional space ships.
    Not as a class though. Again, a class brings that type of thing into an entirely different level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    Ironic because that kind of stuff has been in the game for the majority of wow’s lifetime.
    The second expansion of WoW introduced Draenei technology & inter-dimensional space ships.
    Actually, TBC was the first expansion with Vanilla as zero. Making DF the 9th expansion while 11.0 will be the 10th expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woggmer View Post
    I noticed we've had 30 pages since I last checked, did we get anything new or is it just more discussion about the leaks being fake/real?
    Mostly we moved on from The Four™ and started speculating about Tinkers somehow

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