Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[pacotaco]

My guess is that they'll allow Dracthyr to be other classes after DF. Not sure what else we'll see. More race/class combos across the board, I guess? I will admit, I tend to like new races over classes as well.

Adding shaman, paladin and druid for all races (save dracthys) is almost 100% assured.

[Chickat]

I just realised something... most of the assets that were revamped for Hallow's End never made it to live servers. And by assets I mean these: https://www.wowhead.com/fr/news/new-...34976#comments

Is it because they're attached to 10.2? Does it mean we'll at least see updated assets for the Pilgrim's Bounty?

Its because they arent for Hallows Eve. They are for the upcoming Halloween town zone for 11.0.

[Marlamin]

Ok this race would look amazing

Now we're talking.

[Izalla]

It's funny how he spends so much time being told "no tinkers for you, your idea sucks and I hope you never get your proper racial fantasy class" to gatekeeping the hell out of the concept and telling anyone who wants to be a draenei or orc or whatever and still play a tech based class "no tinkers for you, your idea is bad and wrong and Blizzard will never give you your proper racial fantasy class!"

[Nymrohd]

Adding shaman, paladin and druid for all races (save dracthys) is almost 100% assured.

I mean it will happen but I think they will keep doing it patch by patch so they can pad that road map.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Yeah, they weren't backported to live so we won't see them until Hallows End 2024. We -might- for Pilgrim's Bounty if they've actually replaced all the model references yet as these are new assets, not guaranteed replacements for current ones.

I kept looking at many of those models IG thinking "damn those don't look good for updated models"... now I understand why haha! Thanks Marla!

[pacotaco]

We could always get new specs.

Which i think is vastly more likely to happen than a new class.

I would say the opposite:
- A new class sells better than adding new specs to existing classes.
- Adding new specs force the design into the existing framework of the class (theme and gameplay)
- A new class is a clean canvas to try new mechanics (like evoker with the empowered and support abilities)

[Nokster10]

What happened to Teriz not talking until blizzcon?

[Baraden]

It's funny how he spends so much time being told "no tinkers for you, your idea sucks and I hope you never get your proper racial fantasy class" to gatekeeping the hell out of the concept and telling anyone who wants to be a draenei or orc or whatever and still play a tech based class "no tinkers for you, your idea is bad and wrong and Blizzard will never give you your proper racial fantasy class!"

What are the chances Blizz eventually added tinkers and he'd actually be happy about what they added

[ercarp]

Seems that we are talking about Tinkers.

Whenever I come to this thread and see there are 10-20 new pages, I play a game I like to call "Did A New Leak Drop Or Did People Get Triggered By Teriz Again Because They Can't Handle Someone Having An Opinion Different From Theirs?"

It's a bit of a long title, but... I'm working on it.

[Chickat]

Oh look. Teriz is back. We may make our goal after all.

[Darkarath]

Thanks, I was able to find the original post. I just want to add them to the sheet, that's all.

Looks like that particular leak was posted twice within just a few hours of each other after the first post didn't get enough attention.

• First post by @northrend110
• Second post by @Juanen11 ~14 hours later

Interesting. That makes it even more fake (sadly).

I just realised something... most of the assets that were revamped for Hallow's End never made it to live servers. And by assets I mean these: https://www.wowhead.com/fr/news/new-...34976#comments

Is it because they're attached to 10.2? Does it mean we'll at least see updated assets for the Pilgrim's Bounty?

Maaaaaybe they did not use them because they are going to reveal the revamp for 11.0 and they are going to report how they have been updating assets and how they are going to keep doing it by waves oftenly from 10.2.5 on

[Teriz]

It's funny how he spends so much time being told "no tinkers for you, your idea sucks and I hope you never get your proper racial fantasy class" to gatekeeping the hell out of the concept and telling anyone who wants to be a draenei or orc or whatever and still play a tech based class "no tinkers for you, your idea is bad and wrong and Blizzard will never give you your proper racial fantasy class!"

Merely tamping down people's expectations for a Tinker class for every race. Nothing more, nothing less.

With that said, wonderful discussion everyone. Feel free to have the last word.

[Chickat]

Whenever I come to this thread and see there are 10-20 new pages, I play a game I like to call "Did A New Leak Drop Or Did People Get Triggered By Teriz Again Because They Can't Handle Someone Having An Opinion Different From Theirs?"

It's a bit of a long title, but... I'm working on it.

Yeah I thought he left. And thank god he didnt. Without him we would never make it to 2500.

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Merely tamping down people's expectations for a Tinker class for every race. Nothing more, nothing less.

With that said, wonderful discussion everyone. Feel free to have the last word.

If every other class is playable on every race why would tinkers not be? I can see maybe they would be restricted for the expansion they release in but they absolutely should be playable on every race at some point.

[Nightshade711]

The setting states plainly that Gnomes and Goblins are steeped in technology, not Elves.

Weird. We got Night Elf Tinkers/Tinkologists in BfA.

[Izalla]

Kakapo exist in-game so I'm going to need a Kakapo race in 11.0, anything else will gravely disappoint me and I will leave these forums forever (but I'll actually be back in a day).

Which arakoa model should they adapt for that?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

You don't notice the gears, pipes, and the tesla coils?

Is 40k steam punk then? The mechanicus makes incredibly liberal use of gears pipes and Tesla coils, it’s like one of there main things.

[Nymrohd]

Which arakoa model should they adapt for that?

The flying upright one. honestly just paint it green and it would work.

[Baofeng]

Steampunk is when pipes and grinding gears!!!! nothing else!

[ercarp]

Interesting. That makes it even more fake (sadly).

Indeed. It would be awesome, but it would also be insanely ambitious. Amirdrassil new capital city, underground Azjol-Nerub zone, revamped Northrend, and a 3-zone Avaloren on top of all that?! Not to mention all the gameplay additions (revamped secondary professions, class-agnostic Torghast, removal of race/class restrictions, new race customization for every race, etc.) they're proposing.