Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Hellspawn]

Spoilers

10.1.5 - Vakthros Tower megadungeon, Vyranoth, Bronze Dragonflight
10.2.0 - Return to the Emerald Dream raid, Iridikron, Green Dragonflight
10.2.5 - Dragon Isles focused storyline
10.3.0 - Temporal Conflux raid, Galakrond, Bronze Dragonflight, we learn the Primalists were right
10.3.5 - Epilogue -- Infinite Dragonflight, Chromie
Prepatch - Titans invade Azeroth, turning people into stone automatons to ‘restore order’
11.0.0 - We go to Avaloren to learn how to defeat the Titans, humans, dwarves, offshoot high elves are there, they worship a different pantheon of greater elemental lords. Humans worship the wind elemental, dwarves the earth elemental, elves the fire elemental, a new race the water elemental.

We are just in an heavy elemental based expansion, seems a bit unlikely that they feature that so heavily in the next expansion.
Also if Avaloren is west of Azeroth they elves there would be probably Night Elfs.

[Zulggun]

I recently replayed Twilight Highlands quests, and seeing new cinematic it's amazing how the cinematics technology went forward. Comparing new one to the one where Alex and Deathwing fight in Vermillion Redoubt... crazy comparision, really.

[Skildar]

I recently replayed Twilight Highlands quests, and seeing new cinematic it's amazing how the cinematics technology went forward. Comparing new one to the one where Alex and Deathwing fight in Vermillion Redoubt... crazy comparision, really.

Since the end of MoP they've been doing some amazing ingame cinematics. But these have not gained greatly in value since that time. Take a look at the WoD cinematics, they are already of great quality.

But what they've truly improved in a meaningful way is their tool to develop realtime in engine cinematic with your character, probably by using motion capture technology. We've had a few of these in shadowlands where you can see the face of the character express lots of emotions and in dragonflight you can see it's been utilized a lot more

[huth]

We are just in an heavy elemental based expansion, seems a bit unlikely that they feature that so heavily in the next expansion.
Also if Avaloren is west of Azeroth they elves there would be probably Night Elfs.

Pretty clear whoever wrote that has only superficial knowledge of WarCraft anyway.

[Nebron]

Fyrrak is probably dead by 10.2 so they don't have big fire one anymore to burn stuff down.

More likely they freeze Nordrassil or possibly even the new tree. Or both, because Blizz likes to stomp on Night Elves

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if that happened so they start to develop Elune's story and reveal her physical form, as she comes with the ultimate rescue.
Fyrakk is ignorant, so he will fall for some simple trap I guess or will get owned by the Shadowflame itself, as it will tear him apart.
Vyranoth will fall with the help of Elune and all the Green Dragonflight + NE combo (maybe Ardenweald will get involved).
Iridikron will be the ultimate threat of the expansion with Bronze Dragonflight storyline as the lead up to his defeat (with a help of Tyr or something) - but not before he messes up some things though, probably twisting the timelines.

That's how I envision that.

[Hellspawn]

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if that happened so they start to develop Elune's story and reveal her physical form, as she comes with the ultimate rescue.
Fyrakk is ignorant, so he will fall for some simple trap I guess or will get owned by the Shadowflame itself, as it will tear him apart.
Vyranoth will fall with the help of Elune and all the Green Dragonflight + NE combo (maybe Ardenweald will get involved).
Iridikron will be the ultimate threat of the expansion with Bronze Dragonflight storyline as the lead up to his defeat (with a help of Tyr or something) - but not before he messes up some things though, probably twisting the timelines.

That's how I envision that.

I could see that we get Fyrakk & Vyranoth in a combo...
Maybe the emerald dream gets frozen and Fyrakk burns Nordrassil on Azeroth (maybe Kamikaze style and he dies).
It would be kind of cool if Emerald Dream and the normal version of revamp with out traveling inbetween (via portals) in the zone.

[Lorca]

I wouldn't be surprised if in the end we end up working with the primalists/incarnates and fight against another "bigger" threat like the void...

[Hellspawn]

I wouldn't be surprised if in the end we end up working with the primalists/incarnates and fight against another "bigger" threat like the void...

I doubt that, they killed for fun and jokes and already did too much bad stuff.

[Cheezits]

Winter Queen is definitely going to show up if the person attacking the dream is another winter-themed magic woman.

[Hellspawn]

The seed got the blessing of the Winter Queen, maybe it will get Elunes blessing as well. (Instead of dragon blessings in the past for Nordrassil/Teldrassil)

[Houle]

I would find it interesting if the whole Fyrakk thing is actually going to come back and bite them in the ass.
They seem to be using him here as mostly a distraction, by turning him into a shadowflame battery (which was not healthy for anyone who ever came into contact with it). Both Iridikron and Vyranoth seem to be aware of it.
But we have a pretty long history of the Void not playing by the rules of someone else. Fyrakk is growing more powerful by consuming Void, which "sees all possibilities". So what if hes sees that they have just been using him, and goes absolutely ballistic on them, intead of us like they planned. Iridikron was said to be the strongest so far, but that may not be so accurate anymore when Fyrakk is finished slurping up Neltharions super-special-magic-void-lava. Would be a fun twist if he starst actually being a big problem for them, instead of being the typical "manipulated pawn, who is shocked when he finds out and then dies to us a moment later".

I may be a bit biased tho, bc i think Fyrakk is by far the most entertaining character out of the 3, and dont want him to just end up as the manipulated idiot of the group who dies first and is never mentioned again. Would be a waste of the character imho (but considering thats pretty mucht the motto of the WoW story...shouldnt expect much)

[Skildar]

I doubt that, they killed for fun and jokes and already did too much bad stuff.

WoD and BfA both ended this way despite so much bad stuff having been perpetrated by some people. They aren't examples of good writing but they remain examples of what we can expect of warcraft's writing

[Hellspawn]

WoD and BfA both ended this way despite so much bad stuff having been perpetrated by some people. They aren't examples of good writing but they remain examples of what we can expect of warcraft's writing

And both are special cases but here we just have some bad guys that were just invented for this expansion.

[Lahis]

He is not a Boss in the new Raid and killing him in a minor patch seems unlikely... So how do you think he gets killed?

The mega dungeon. That comes between 10.1 and 10.2.

[Alanar]

I would find it interesting if the whole Fyrakk thing is actually going to come back and bite them in the ass.
They seem to be using him here as mostly a distraction, by turning him into a shadowflame battery (which was not healthy for anyone who ever came into contact with it). Both Iridikron and Vyranoth seem to be aware of it.
But we have a pretty long history of the Void not playing by the rules of someone else. Fyrakk is growing more powerful by consuming Void, which "sees all possibilities". So what if hes sees that they have just been using him, and goes absolutely ballistic on them, intead of us like they planned. Iridikron was said to be the strongest so far, but that may not be so accurate anymore when Fyrakk is finished slurping up Neltharions super-special-magic-void-lava. Would be a fun twist if he starst actually being a big problem for them, instead of being the typical "manipulated pawn, who is shocked when he finds out and then dies to us a moment later".

I may be a bit biased tho, bc i think Fyrakk is by far the most entertaining character out of the 3, and dont want him to just end up as the manipulated idiot of the group who dies first and is never mentioned again. Would be a waste of the character imho (but considering thats pretty mucht the motto of the WoW story...shouldnt expect much)

Ye pretty sure the fire dragon will die there, hes purpose will be fulfilled. Thats my guess as well.

[Ginnung]

Icicle woman had better be dead by the end. I'm tired of the woman in a villain ensemble being allowed off the hook while all of the men die.

I still can't get over how bad her design is, she looks really awful and goofy.
The stone guy looks okay, the fire guy is just kinda generic and bland he sorta looks like he could be a random enemy you fight in a dungeon.
But the ice lady is just weird lol.

As a group of villains they're just extremely goofy imho, I actually find them more silly than the Jailer and the Jailer had like zero personality too.

[Kiivar86]

Prepatch - Titans invade Azeroth, turning people into stone automatons to ‘restore order’

Ah yes, the Titans invade. The Titans currently locked with Sargeras. Those Titans. They invade.

I suppose it could be yet unknown Titans though. But I'm giving too much thought to obviously fake spoilers.

[Nathanyel]

Fyrakk is growing more powerful by consuming Void, which "sees all possibilities". So what if hes sees that they have just been using him, and goes absolutely ballistic on them, intead of us like they planned.

Now that could be a fun twist, a new variation of the heel-face turn.
Fyrakk "grows up" due to the Void teaching him, and realizes he's been left to die as a distraction, even kinda helps us kill or re-imprison the other two, and while he'll never be a true ally to us, he's also disillusioned out of the desire to kill us, remaining as an occasional antagonist, sending Void/Shadowflame forces against us merely because we're standing in the way to some macguffin.

Bit too complex and anticlimactic for a game story, but a fun thought.

[Makabreska]

Ah yes, the Titans invade. The Titans currently locked with Sargeras. Those Titans. They invade.

I suppose it could be yet unknown Titans though. But I'm giving too much thought to obviously fake spoilers.

Not to mention that fleshy "children of Azeroth" already proven themselves to Titans in Legion. I really do wonder what these burner accounts try to achieve with these super obvious fakes.

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I would find it interesting if the whole Fyrakk thing is actually going to come back and bite them in the ass.
They seem to be using him here as mostly a distraction, by turning him into a shadowflame battery (which was not healthy for anyone who ever came into contact with it). Both Iridikron and Vyranoth seem to be aware of it.

Fyrakk defo going off the leash. Hotheaded dude with no supervision tapping into dubious powers. But I still think (at least) Iridikron predicted that and it is part of his plan.

[Gurahk]

Has this actually happened with any one other then sylvanas?

Not necessarily just villains. But I remember in BfA, Rastakhan was killed off in the middle of the raid while Jaina was left completely unscathed, only mentioning "wounds" that healed off-screen pretty quickly. Even Mekkatorque had something happen to him.