Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Harbour]

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1719081746715885705

Light's Hope Chapel
i keep hoping

[justwatching]

Said "bombshell" is probably "a feeling" born of wishful thinking.

Another essay on how the company that has been reskinning the same tiger model for 10 years would never reuse assets incoming...I think convincing yourself that these are 100% fake is just setting yourself up for disappointment its literally Dracthyr 2.0 at this point.

[Nymrohd]

That surely plays a big part. But also traditional forums like mmo champ simply aren't popular anymore.

They weren't popular five years ago either tbh.

[Zankai27]

People will torch Blizz HQ if they give Horde a fucking Ogre-like OCshit race instead of Ogres or Mok'nathal. Are they that fucking stupid?

You are fucking HIGH on copium if you think people care that much. After Void Elves over High Elves?? And Mechagnomes?? Suddenly Mok'Nathal, a thing a niche slightly bigger than the gnome fans actually want, is enough to tip people over the edge?

[KurtMash]

<looking at the newest warcraft beats>

...aww shiet, I guess this leak is real after all

[Marlamin]

Is that even realistically possible? What kind of images come up if you ask an AI for a WoW zone anyways. ?

Not exactly possible with current training, no. AI is great at doing certain generic styles that it is trained on (e.g. realistic, painterly, 3D, whatever), but WoW's specific style isn't something it has nailed down yet. It will still give something very painterly even if you tell it to generate an in-engine in-game WoW screenshot.

If you were to train one of the major AIs specifically on in-game WoW screenshots (without any UI), you might be able to get close, though, but the really good ones aren't publicly trainable, so alas.

I do believe that the environment in the 4 screenshots is from in-game, whether or not it is by Blizzard or some very talented third-party individual(s) remains to be seen.

[Sondrelk]

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1719081746715885705

Light's Hope Chapel
i keep hoping

I want to belieeeeeeeve!

[Nightshade711]

Uh if there was there would be a hook now, not after it’s released and we know the plot.

Every WoW expansion before had a hook before announcement. It’s amusing watching people try to pretend that it’s totally normal for Avaloren not to have one.

That's not really how expansions have ever really worked.

[hattahat]

Even if Avaloren is indeed the next expansion, Tyr doesn't want us to go there. In fact, he might even try to prevent us from going there. It's Odyn who will turn the key.

[Nightshade711]

Hmmm they probably mean “cosmic” as in the cosmic gear from late Shadowlands.

Highly doubt it lmao.

[Teriz]

Even if Avaloren is indeed the next expansion, Tyr doesn't want us to go there. In fact, he might even try to prevent us from going there. It's Odyn who will turn the key.

Odyn doesn’t want to go there either though. He never went there even though he knew where it was.

[Ferlion]

Even if Avaloren is indeed the next expansion, Tyr doesn't want us to go there. In fact, he might even try to prevent us from going there. It's Odyn who will turn the key.

I'm kind of hoping if it is Avaloren we get a mini raid to bridge the gap and it's us killing Tyr.

[Sondrelk]

Not exactly possible with current training, no. AI is great at doing certain generic styles that it is trained on (e.g. realistic, painterly, 3D, whatever), but WoW's specific style isn't something it has nailed down yet. It will still give something very painterly even if you tell it to generate an in-engine in-game WoW screenshot.

If you were to train one of the major AIs specifically on in-game WoW screenshots (without any UI), you might be able to get close, though, but the really good ones aren't publicly trainable, so alas.

I do believe that the environment in the 4 screenshots is from in-game, whether or not it is by Blizzard or some very talented third-party individual(s) remains to be seen.

The fact that the images use a bunch of existing tilesets and assets does make it unlikely even a great AI made them. But a level editor would work wonders. Maybe with some Photoshop at the end of paste the mobs in.

[Pheraz]

I want to belieeeeeeeve!

xD hahaha

Did we ever have a theme we feared so much as dw0rf utopia?

[workworkzugzug]

Can you clue is in on what the set pieces look like?

most of it is in crates at the moment, but in general its what you expect. the stuff that was floating around here last week that they put on twitter is for the corridor of time area, there are a few purple pillars and tents for the darkmoon faire aswell. the main stage is very generic this time around as it will be used by all the games.

diablo hall probably has the most in terms of set pieces, the tattoo shop is being set up right now. not been doing any work in the overwatch area so couldn't tell you much

main stage should be done tomorrow, working on past blizzcons they just test it with generic graphics and not what will actually be shown so i wont see any 11.0 trailer on the big screen or anything.

merch stands go up on thursday, that is when leaks will spill out guaranteed.

[Bossmonkey]

<looking at the newest warcraft beats>

...aww shiet, I guess this leak is real after all

Now thats an expac I can get behind

[kavikor]

I find it hard to think it'll be anything but some kind of Avaloren/Dwarf stuff.

We have the stormrider gear trading post stuff, the Algarian Stormrider mount rn as things pushing that direction

[Kiria]

most of it is in crates at the moment, but in general its what you expect. the stuff that was floating around here last week that they put on twitter is for the corridor of time area, there are a few purple pillars and tents for the darkmoon faire aswell. the main stage is very generic this time around as it will be used by all the games.

diablo hall probably has the most in terms of set pieces, the tattoo shop is being set up right now. not been doing any work in the overwatch area so couldn't tell you much

main stage should be done tomorrow, working on past blizzcons they just test it with generic graphics and not what will actually be shown so i wont see any 11.0 trailer on the big screen or anything.

merch stands go up on thursday, that is when leaks will spill out guaranteed.

Cheers muchly, keep up the great work

[matijwow]

It's pretty weird that they said the reason the Dragon Isles reactivated was because Azeroth is "waking up" (thus Waking Shores), and we never hear anything about it again.

[milkmustache]

It's pretty weird that they said the reason the Dragon Isles reactivated was because Azeroth is "waking up" (thus Waking Shores), and we never hear anything about it again.

They brought up this point again in the recent Narrative interview, but there has been very little reason to see that the world is waking, even on the Dragon Isles.