Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Skildar]

I'm okay with spending all the following expansions on Azeroth or on another planet. There can be an escalation during an expansion that takes us to a different plane or a different space, etc. That's what happened for most expansions.

I still don't have any issue with the fact that we went to the shadowlands and I largely prefer its setting visually compared to the dragon isles. But having something that creates a sense of wonder, alien, uncharted, etc. should be made a priority

[Luck4]

I'm okay with spending all the following expansions on Azeroth or on another planet.

I'm also not against another planet/outer space expansion, I would say even time travel would be better than more cosmic planes/dimensions exploration.

[Nathanyel]

Not to mention that fleshy "children of Azeroth" already proven themselves to Titans in Legion. I really do wonder what these burner accounts try to achieve with these super obvious fakes.

People heard "the Void isn't absolutely evil, the Light isn't absolutely good" and concluded "Void is actually good, Light is actually evil", when it all depends on frame of reference and context (although the actual main rulers of the realms of Void/Light/Order will by definition have goals that don't align with those of the denizens of Azeroth, which would inevitably bring them in opposition to "us")

Similar with the hints that the Titan Keepers had a darker side, that meant to them that the Titans are evil, actually.

All in all it very much reminds me of the "both sides!" trolls.

Next expansion: we're going to the Moon.[...]

Funnily enough, this makes more sense than the "Titans bad" theory.

[crusadernero]

Voidlands should be one of the last cosmic realms we explore.

ShadowVoidLands. Realm of shadowy void death

[Nymrohd]

One idea I had about the Moon is that maybe an Old God has landed on the dark side there. No world soul but it would have ample time to get large and do its thing.

And I really don't want them to try and create "voidlands". What does that even mean? It's the Void, it should be VOID.

[crusadernero]

One idea I had about the Moon is that maybe an Old God has landed on the dark side there. No world soul but it would have ample time to get large and do its thing.

And I really don't want them to try and create "voidlands". What does that even mean? It's the Void, it should be VOID.

We can travel to the voidlands and just be floating around in the void. Kind of like how it works in vashirj under water. kek

[Nymrohd]

We can travel to the voidlands and just be floating around in the void. Kind of like how it works in vashirj under water. kek

I just think Void should be dealt with as a place superimposed on the physical realm instead of going into the emptiness directly. Maybe have a boss fight there or something but I sincerely hope we don't kamehameha the Void Lords in their home plane cause that will just be painful to watch.

[crusadernero]

I just think Void should be dealt with as a place superimposed on the physical realm instead of going into the emptiness directly. Maybe have a boss fight there or something but I sincerely hope we don't kamehameha the Void Lords in their home plane cause that will just be painful to watch.

Yeah I agree. Shadowlands proved to Blizzard we dont need or want that kind of content. Visit it during a xpac in a patch? Sure. Get that part of the lore to visit us? Sure. But a whole voidxpac? weird

[Auxis]

Been thinking about the last boss room of Aberrus, based on the visuals I've seen posted on wowhead.

10.1 spoilers below:
The screenshots show that it's a shattered/warped chamber/prison in a pocket of void. I'm wondering, do we know if this chamber is much further BELOW Aberrus, or is it just another standard chamber in the laboratory? I'm just thinking, if it is deeper into Azeroth's crust than the Zaralek Caverns are, WHAT is so important about this chamber and is the void dimension specifically a result of Sarkareth's void awakening or if it is something else? Something-something what we think is a pocket of void is actually what the space around an enclosed world soul actually looks like.

Just shower thoughts.

[micwini]

Spoilers

10.1.5 - Vakthros Tower megadungeon, Vyranoth, Bronze Dragonflight
10.2.0 - Return to the Emerald Dream raid, Iridikron, Green Dragonflight
10.2.5 - Dragon Isles focused storyline
10.3.0 - Temporal Conflux raid, Galakrond, Bronze Dragonflight, we learn the Primalists were right
10.3.5 - Epilogue -- Infinite Dragonflight, Chromie
Prepatch - Titans invade Azeroth, turning people into stone automatons to ‘restore order’
11.0.0 - We go to Avaloren to learn how to defeat the Titans, humans, dwarves, offshoot high elves are there, they worship a different pantheon of greater elemental lords. Humans worship the wind elemental, dwarves the earth elemental, elves the fire elemental, a new race the water elemental.

Makes somewhat sense until we get to 11.0. No. Avaloren will not be an expansion continent. Patch at most.

[Dracullus]

Makes somewhat sense until we get to 11.0. No. Avaloren will not be an expansion continent. Patch at most.

It sounds like potential continent, but I don't expect Pandaria style expansion after Pandaria style expansion. Next expac should be something more familiar and since we almost ran out of known places, it's time to revamp some continent (without deleting old one of course, I'm thinking about making it from scratch). Imo Lordareon or whole EK for Light/Void expac would be perfect.

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Nice, few days ago I posted that in 2019 we had 25th April Blizzcon annoucement and today Ybarra told us we should expect info soon. I'm really curious how they deal with revealing end of DF and Blizzcon. I can't imagine not revealing expac there and roadmap clearly suggest 10.3 (unless DF will be shorter, in that case we could have bonus season on spring and expac on summer).

Yeah I agree. Shadowlands proved to Blizzard we dont need or want that kind of content. Visit it during a xpac in a patch? Sure. Get that part of the lore to visit us? Sure. But a whole voidxpac? weird

Am I last person that remember how SL was loved by community on release? And it's diverse continent, not just Maw? Key thing about every expansion is patch schedule. Every content is awful if it stays same for months (and flaws more visible).

[micwini]

It sounds like potential continent, but I don't expect Pandaria style expansion after Pandaria style expansion. Next expac should be something more familiar and since we almost ran out of known places, it's time to revamp some continent (without deleting old one of course, I'm thinking about making it from scratch). Imo Lordareon or whole EK for Light/Void expac would be perfect.

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Nice, few days ago I posted that in 2019 we had 25th April Blizzcon annoucement and today Ybarra told us we should expect info soon. I'm really curious how they deal with revealing end of DF and Blizzcon. I can't imagine not revealing expac there and roadmap clearly suggest 10.3 (unless DF will be shorter, in that case we could have bonus season on spring and expac on summer).



Am I last person that remember how SL was loved by community on release? And it's diverse continent, not just Maw? Key thing about every expansion is patch schedule. Every content is awful if it stays same for months (and flaws more visible).

If Avaloren = content then I agree that it should have a bit more buildup.

[huth]

Been thinking about the last boss room of Aberrus, based on the visuals I've seen posted on wowhead.

10.1 spoilers below:
The screenshots show that it's a shattered/warped chamber/prison in a pocket of void. I'm wondering, do we know if this chamber is much further BELOW Aberrus, or is it just another standard chamber in the laboratory? I'm just thinking, if it is deeper into Azeroth's crust than the Zaralek Caverns are, WHAT is so important about this chamber and is the void dimension specifically a result of Sarkareth's void awakening or if it is something else? Something-something what we think is a pocket of void is actually what the space around an enclosed world soul actually looks like.

Just shower thoughts.

Have you forgotten that Aberrus was made by Neltharion at a time when he was already experimenting with Void powers? And we're not that deep down, so that's pretty unlikely.

[Nymrohd]

Am I last person that remember how SL was loved by community on release? And it's diverse continent, not just Maw? Key thing about every expansion is patch schedule. Every content is awful if it stays same for months (and flaws more visible).

I'd say it was liked on release. It was not loved at 9.1 though. Even before it got old, that patch was just not particularly liked.

[huth]

I'd say it was liked on release. It was not loved at 9.1 though. Even before it got old, that patch was just not particularly liked.

I don't think the issue was the setting on that anyway. More the writing, especially the poorly explored villain.

[Nymrohd]

I don't think the issue was the setting on that anyway. More the writing, especially the poorly explored villain.

I think there were multiple issues. Shards of domination were a stupid system. Korthia was very underwhelming. The Sylvanas fight was imo just bad.

And yeah the story was very unsatisfying but that gets you angry with it and kills your hype. The gameplay systems being bad and the content being poor is what makes you stop playing. And the fact it lasted for that long did not help either.

[Kiivar86]

Any idea what this icon's about? Its called Nightmare Banner.

[Skildar]

Any idea what this icon's about? Its called Nightmare Banner.

probably some diablo event related reward

[8bithamster]

probably some diablo event related reward

Since wowhead showed a cloak with that design from a Diablo event. 99% chance it's that

[Kiivar86]

probably some diablo event related reward

Oh that would be it, wouldn't it? The usage of Nightmare though (and red) had me curious but that'd make some sense.