Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[NoTimeToDie5426]

I always forget palegos was a character because by and large outside of Denathrius the shclands characters were just dull.

It really confuses me that people remember such a bland character. It's like Bluther. Or Baine.

You kind of just forget they exist

I will never forgive them for making Baine Udder-ly useless (god forgive me ).

[kavikor]

I always forget palegos was a character because by and large outside of Denathrius the shclands characters were just dull.

It really confuses me that people remember such a bland character. It's like Bluther. Or Baine.

You kind of just forget they exist

I thought Pelgaso was ok

[Mecheon]

I always forget palegos was a character because by and large outside of Denathrius the shclands characters were just dull.

It really confuses me that people remember such a bland character. It's like Bluther. Or Baine.

You kind of just forget they exist

Eh, if you did Bastion he was one of your soulbinds and hung around a lot. The whole 'trying to disguise himself to not be a blatent Kyrian' part of the story was at least vaguely interesting

In an expansion as character starved as SL, anyone who at least had something to them drew folks in

[Ebonn]

I always forget palegos was a character because by and large outside of Denathrius the shclands characters were just dull.

It really confuses me that people remember such a bland character. It's like Bluther. Or Baine.

You kind of just forget they exist

So true, and honestly I barely remember any characters at all from that expansion. I remember some guy with nipples…? Lol

Still so sad about Baine though. After Cairne, he had such opportunity, and ended up being such a disappointment.

[Shizari]

I always forget palegos was a character because by and large outside of Denathrius the shclands characters were just dull.

It really confuses me that people remember such a bland character. It's like Bluther. Or Baine.

You kind of just forget they exist

Pelagos was one of the few things about Shadowlands I LIKED, ironically. He wasn't a spectacular character but he had a coherent, decently told beginning-middle-end. And ANYTHING being decent in SL was welcome.

[kavikor]

Eh, if you did Bastion he was one of your soulbinds and hung around a lot. The whole 'trying to disguise himself to not be a blatent Kyrian' part of the story was at least vaguely interesting

In an expansion as character starved as SL, anyone who at least had something to them drew folks in

Yeah, as someone who was basically forced to go Kyrian on every character at first i was very familiar with him

[Chickat]

This is just @22mage22's leak reformatted. And they already debunked themselves, so... 0/5.

Did they? They never admitted they were algar storms.

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Five keys to open our way. Five torches light our path.

It was five, not six.

Oh yeah. Was there one about 6 something at all?

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I managed to decrypt this. It translates into binary which translates into "Prison of Khaz".

Tells us nothing.

What if Khaz is some kind of lost dwarf God or keeper. Or an important Earthen that accepted the curse of flesh willingly.

[Viridiel]

Did they? They never admitted they were algar storms.

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Oh yeah. Was there one about 6 something at all?

"The seventh covets what the six hold fast" is a quote from the voidy statue in Korthia. I think everything else talks about five.

EDIT: Forgot the other quote from the statue, "Hidden from daylight, a sleeping flame rests atop the sixth tree"

[Chickat]

Hi 22mage22, how was your day?

This is the one who accurately leaked Diablo 4xpac and said wow was SoA and world revamp.

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Holy shit, it's the Diablo leaker himself. The origin of the SoA acronym.

Yep and they legit have the most accurate leak for d4. So I'm inclined to believe them.

[Bossmonkey]

Did they? They never admitted they were algar storms.

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Oh yeah. Was there one about 6 something at all?

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What if Khaz is some kind of lost dwarf God or keeper. Or an important Earthen that accepted the curse of flesh willingly.

It's always been assumed Khaz is a reference to Khazgoroth, the titan who made the Earthen to begin with.

[Ferlion]

Did they? They never admitted they were algar storms.

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Oh yeah. Was there one about 6 something at all?

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What if Khaz is some kind of lost dwarf God or keeper. Or an important Earthen that accepted the curse of flesh willingly.

Khaz is khazgorath.

[Chickat]

<3 I’ll zen out then lol

I never saw it. Care to elaborate?

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I'm all for believing that @22mage22 is every leaker all at once, but this is actually the original Spiritborn leaker posting. Check their post history.

People are getting way too bitter.

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Kinda fun to see how AI view WoW logos
https://imgur.com/a/C94VRsR

Why can't it get the of lol.

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So, i turned on my vibing sensor and cooked up following connection:
Khaz may mean Khaz'goroth
Khaz'goroth is a worldshaper
Prison of Khaz may mean the world-prison shaped by Khaz'goroth
Khaz'goroth gave the power to Earth Aspect
Iridikron is also Earth affilate character and Neltharion's rival
Maybe Prison of Khaz is Azeroth itself
Place to seclude the worst things in the universe
And all keepers that supposedly were created to protect Azeroth actually was meant to be the jailers.

Which factually is something we already know (Keepers keep Old Gods in their prisons), so yeah, it factually tells us nothing new. Except for maybe that we will go deeper inside the planet, since all of this is deeply connected to the earth itself.

Forgot his name was that. Forget my above post about khaz.

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secrets of azeroth
new continent khaz algar for alliance
new continent kezan undermine for horde
new class: tinker
tinker has tank and support specs and is for all races
archaeology revamped to be a game mode and not a profession
new system for playing alone with AI players in dungeons and outdoor content
void and iridikron villains

I was gonna say hi Teriz but he would never say bolded.

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@Teriz about to throw a parade.

Nah he would be mad about the all races.

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If it turns out to be an Undermine expansion with a tinker class, this entire thread ought to line up to apologize to Teriz.

I'll admit he was right and I'll even be happy. But I'll still call him an @ss for being so arrogant and stubborn.

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I'd argue a party is in order instead as next leak season we won't have to hear anything about Tinkers again.

I'm sure he will find a new schtick.

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The AI dungeon bit, it's something Blizz has been experimenting with in Dragonflight that's flown relatively under the radar outside of diffs on MMO-C and a tweet by MrGM (and people here/in datamining discords ofc).

Yeah im pretty excited about that. I hope they remove lfr too and replace it with explorer mode. It would also be a fantastic tool to learn fights.

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Well, your earlier post made you sound kind of legit so I'll take this with a smaller grain of salt than I usually would.

Sounds cool imo.

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I will say, you come across less mechanical than other ostensible 'leakers', so either you're legit or you're shaking up the format a bit. Props either way.

Also, while very probably Xal, worth not discounting Queen Tentacles herself if 'elf' is the main descriptor we're working with.

Could be void Azeroth herself too.

[bdna]

How are you guys so good at detecting AI images? I'm still at the point where a good AI flat earth image would make me doubt everything I have ever learned at school. I, for the life of me, could not see the AI slop in that picture before being told by the posters.

[Chickat]

"The seventh covets what the six hold fast" is a quote from the voidy statue in Korthia. I think everything else talks about five.

EDIT: Forgot the other quote from the statue, "Hidden from daylight, a sleeping flame rests atop the sixth tree"

That's literally the new tree. The shadowflame still has an ember and is waiting to spread when in Azeroth. Called that a few dozen posts back.

[Ebonn]

Did they? They never admitted they were algar storms.

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Oh yeah. Was there one about 6 something at all?

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What if Khaz is some kind of lost dwarf God or keeper. Or an important Earthen that accepted the curse of flesh willingly.

Six seats at the high table. Six mouths that hunger.

[Xilurm]

How are you guys so good at detecting AI images? I'm still at the point where a good AI flat earth image would make me doubt everything I have ever learned at school. I, for the life of me, could not see the AI slop in that picture before being told by the posters.

Gotta look for things that don't make sense. Also, when it comes "realistic" pictures, they all look too glossy to be real.

[Chickat]

Six seats at the high table. Six mouths that hunger.

That's the cosmic forces imo. But could be the Titan pantheon i suppose.

[Ebonn]

That's the cosmic forces imo. But could be the Titan pantheon i suppose.

I tend to think it’s the cosmic forces also.

[Bossmonkey]

Six seats at the high table. Six mouths that hunger.

Azeroth is the high table, the six mouths are each of the main cosmic forces trying to claim it. imo

[Woke it Up]

How are you guys so good at detecting AI images? I'm still at the point where a good AI flat earth image would make me doubt everything I have ever learned at school. I, for the life of me, could not see the AI slop in that picture before being told by the posters.

In game screenshot and art it's checking difficult details like hands, details that are too perfect/generic, patterns of warping that look sorta like smearing. The four image leak is hard to call Ai because everything looks consistent. The website is slightly more generic and smaller details seem a bit more sus.

The four image leak could still use ai, but it would be a specifically trained one for specific assets bit by bit with extra editing which at some point it's easier just to do the art. So it's not really much to suggest it's ai generated.

IRL is even harder to fake well with ai especially with lots of details, smaller details or weird inconsistencys are time consuming to remove, and as with the game one it's eventually just editing.