Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Syegfryed]

The mere existence of Old Gods implies that there are New Gods.

Who/what are the New Gods?

??? isn't that supposed to be the titans and the wild gods? who people see as the <current> gods?

[Harbour]

The mere existence of Old Gods implies that there are New Gods.

Who/what are the New Gods?

I have a theory that Iridikron wants to become the New God.

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To elaborate - he struck the bargain with Xal'tath - he helps her to get her power back from 4 other Old Gods, in return she makes Iridikron her consort or at least share that power with him.
Together they free Azeroth from Titan Keeper presence and Iridikron un-orders his kin.

[Zankai27]

Those leakers are dumb as shit; Blizzcon doesn't work like that. If there's a reveal, they'll do it in the opening ceremony, not in the timeslot after it. Timeslots are for discussing stuff that's been revealed and adding on to it

[Wangming]

Oh no! The "diverse" characters aren't entirely defined by their otherness and their whole purpose isn't to be "diverse". Now they pretend to be normal people, such wokeness.

This is sarcasm. Just to be sure.

I'm sorry for engaging this off-topc nonsense.

I'm not sure to be alarmed or amused by your complete lack of subtlety.
Breaking news this just in: Diverse people have diverse life experiences
Shocking, I know. You can't just create create token characters to fill your diversity quota and act like your are progressive.
Sure, having a character defined by a single attribute is sloppy writing, but that does not mean we have to go fully in the opposite direction.

[Varodoc]

It used to be that the proper answer was "The other faction"

This was never the case.

Even back in Classic, no one cared about the Lore faction war. People were only interested in faction war because of World PvP and City raids, no one cared about the Lore faction war.

Everyone wanted to see the Lich King, the Legion, Illidan, and more about the Old Gods (since they were still a new and recent thing back then).

No one cared about seeing the "Fourth War".

[Wangming]

I have a theory that Iridikron wants to become the New God.

There is a pretty cool Neil Gaiman novel about this.

[keelr]

Yeah we need more all male panels!

And here you go turning my words inside out. I don't care if they are male or female. All i care about if its people who can present upcoming stuff properly

[Syegfryed]

This was never the case.

Even back in Classic, no one cared about the Lore faction war. People were only interested in faction war because of World PvP and City raids, no one cared about the Lore faction war.

Everyone wanted to see the Lich King, the Legion, Illidan, and more about the Old Gods (since they were still a new and recent thing back then).

False

No one cared about seeing the "Fourth War".

Because there was no "fourth war"

this was still the third war, it never ended.

[Valysar]

Yeah the "Alliance versus Horde" war is over, time to move on.

[Mecheon]

False



Because there was no "fourth war"

this was still the third war, it never ended.

Eh, I was there in Vanilla. We cared more for upcoming stuff and for like, Hyjal to be opened over the faction war

And the Third War did end? That was WC3

[Harbour]

Unrionically if they will announce even boring expansion but with the whole new cosmetic Glyph System, where each glyph makes some spell look differently, that would make me buy expansion.
Like imagine 30-50+ Glyphs for each class.
You fill the bar with AP, you then use that AP to unlock whatever Glyph you want. You can preview the result before spending power. Each spell would have at least few different color and animation variations.
Would you grind AP if its purely for cosmetics spell customization?

[vintage79]

how many big trees we have 'currently' in Azeroth? 5? 6? with this anew?

"Five Keys, Five torches, five lanterns" ???? - burned trees?

what if every tree is a prison of an old God?
what if emerald dream is an 'network' between this trees
and
fyrakk gonna burn it/corrupt it/shadowflame it (u name it)
and free all big baddies

there was this artwork or cover of some book, where all old Gods looked like they were tangled in tree roots..

[Tartys]

But how do you see such an expansion working?

Let's assume Khaz Algar is underneath Silithus. It's close enough to have a sprawling underground zone that goes as far as Kezan/Undermine (since the island is relatively close to Silithus).

But Azjol-Nerub is in Northrend. How can Underground expansion contain Khaz Algar/Silithus, Undermine/Kezan, and Azjol-Nerub/Northrend? Impossible.

Argus, Emerald Dream look likes a scrapped expansion idea used later as a content patch, maybe now it's Azjol-Nerub chance.


With Nozdormu talking about some events were worth changing, maybe we can go back in time in Azjol-Nerub to "fix" something from the past.


Was sad the "Cavern of time" concept was scrapped: with the right tech and story, could be used on a whole area, instead on a single raid/dungeon.
We can go back in time.. fix stuff and when we came back to our current time-line, the zone is revamped. Blizzard can even revamp Azeroth in that way.. piece by piece.

[Syegfryed]

Eh, I was there in Vanilla. We cared more for upcoming stuff and for like, Hyjal to be opened over the faction war

Its nice that you want to speak for the entire playerbase since vanilla, but if people didn't care silithus would not be a huge alliance x horde stuff.

And the Third War did end? That was WC3

it didn't, it was just a cease-fire, first, second and third war are related to horde x alliance, it went into a halt since they fought the scourge/archimonde in hyjal

[Harbour]

I think Caverns of Time decorations and panel at Blizzcon will serve purely the vehicle purpose to present new expantions for Retail and Classic.
Like we wont go back in time in those expansions, but through going back in time or different timelines Metzen will demonstrate what was before and what is going to happend next and how exactly.

I personally expect Classic+ being canon but happening in a different timeline.

[Nyel]

They can’t even do the Emerald Dream justice with the upcoming zone and people are still talking about this as a missed opportunity for an expansion, lol. The same with Argus. Those three zones already were bland af, an entire expansion there? Good lord.

Anything on known Azeroth is already a win because they’re good at doing those zones (look at KT and Zandalar), so here’s to hoping that will be the case with the next expansion.

[Makorus]

False



Because there was no "fourth war"

this was still the third war, it never ended.

???? It ended after WC3 and the 4th War officially started during BfA.

[Shadowferal]

Yeah the "Alliance versus Horde" war is over, time to move on.

Millions have...to other games.
DF is the result.

[Varodoc]

Back in Classic, the vast majority of people did not care about faction war.

People wanted to see the main villains of WC3: Lich King, Illidan, and Kil'jaeden.

It's not coincidence that Blizzard made a full-blown faction war (Cataclysm) only after they had expended all their major WC3 villains.

And it's not a coincidence that the first two expansions of WoW were tying up loose ends from WC3 (Illidan, Kil'jaeden/Legion, Lich King) and barely contained any instance of faction conflict at all.

[Nuami]

Yeah the "Alliance versus Horde" war is over, time to move on.

It does not sit right with me that one faction can burn alive hundreds of civilians alive which triggers the events of a massive world war where thousands more die and then both just agree it was only one persons fault and we can all be friends now.