Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Dragon ANX]

Any bets on F2P WoW starting with 11.0?

Why would they? WoW still is the most popular MMO, even with a subscription. It has three major rivals: FF14 (subscription-based), ESO (pseudo-subscription), and GW2 (I don't remember if they have a premium subscription). If you consider PvP, there's BDO, which has gained more popularity recently, but that game also has a basically mandatory premium subscription fee.
So, for what reasonable reason would they go free-to-play? WoW is a Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game (MMORPG); it is not a Multiplayer Online Battle Arena (MOBA) or Battle Royale. It doesn't need to go free-to-play to compete against the other rivals in the market. I could see us getting a new tier in the Game Pass that includes WoW, but that will only happen next year, as Spencer said that they will not be announcing anything of the sorts this year.

[KurtMash]

Of course Avaloren and Khaz Algar are different locations.

The Avaloren book tells us how Odyn can't reach Avaloren, and Khaz Algar book is a report on the Dwarves there, implying they have people on location.

But there's no established timeline here, right? Could it just be, that Khaz Algar book comes first, and Odyn lost access to it only later?

Because damn, for every reason why they are not the same place, I see another why they are. For example storm theme.

[Harbour]

We will probably get another legitimate-looking leak today.

I expect binary guy to come back and spoil us with systems.

[Fahrad Wagner]

I expect binary guy to come back and spoil us with systems.

Same, very curious as to what they'll say. This could make or break the leak

[Nightshade711]

I expect binary guy to come back and spoil us with systems.

Tbh I’m very skeptical about the binary leaks until we get some more hard evidence. Throwing stuff into a binary translator doesn’t make it any more legit.

However don’t get me wrong it is fun to speculate, I am curious about the artificer class & how it’d operate if it were true.

[Moth Preacher]

Artificer sounds more interesting than tinker, more diverse

[Cheezits]

Artificer sounds more interesting than tinker, more diverse

It's just tinker for more races, which is the smart way to do it. Same reason there is only one race-based class (Demon Hunter)

[Harbour]

Artificer did it for me. It's either very smart if it's fake or it's legit because Artificer makes way more sense than Tinker.

[CasualFilth]

Is the new WoW book out for EU/UK?

Can't find it on Audible & Amazon has it released Nov. 7?

[Fahrad Wagner]

Artificer sounds more interesting than tinker, more diverse

it's basically race agnostic tinker, so yeah it's better than tinker but at the same time it is tinker

[huth]

Tbh I’m very skeptical about the binary leaks until we get some more hard evidence. Throwing stuff into a binary translator doesn’t make it any more legit.

However don’t get me wrong it is fun to speculate, I am curious about the artificer class & how it’d operate if it were true.

Pretty much the only thing writing in binary does is make it more annoying to read. It's not like it's hard to translate back.

[Nightshade711]

Artificer sounds more interesting than tinker, more diverse

Agreed.
I see it just being a “jack of all trades” version of engineer/tinker using all different kinds of technology. (Gnome, Goblin, Draenei, Elf, etc)

Which from the player character side makes sense given we’ve always been “special”. (Like Evoker is a super special title for us being the “Jack of all trades” for using dragonflight magics)

And is possible because there’s that gnome/goblin couple in lore that combine their gnomish/goblin tech.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Artificer did it for me. It's either very smart if it's fake or it's legit because Artificer makes way more sense than Tinker.

I mean a lot of players have been discussing the Artificer class concept for years, it's out there with necromancer and bard, and for a lot of people it has always been interchangeable with tinker/been a flavour of tinker. Ofc the two could be completely separate, but that would be redundant. If we are indeed getting Artificers, I would be pretty excited!

[Dragon ANX]

Artificer sounds more interesting than tinker, more diverse

I don't know... i feel like Blizzard wouldn't go for another class this soon, i can see they adding new sup specs to make the "sup role" more diverse, but i kinda doubt they would release a new class.

[Cheezits]

Pretty much the only thing writing in binary does is make it more annoying to read. It's not like it's hard to translate back.

If it's legit, it's probably too much of a pain in the ass for Blizz's anti-leak squad to go and translate. Good way to cover tracks.

[vintage79]

Is there a blizzcon bingo already up ?

there u go

Ultimate Blizzcon 2023 bingo

[Shadowferal]

Unironically yes

I'm sure you believe that.
I'm sure you'd say the same were the game to go ftp.

[M1dkn1ght]

Any bets on F2P WoW starting with 11.0?

I am going to wager they are going to throw it on Game Pass starting at the release of 11.0. However, we may begin to see more MTX added to the Shop.

[Xilurm]

Why do people have an obsession with wanting to make WoW into a F2P game?

[Cheezits]

You know... didn't realize it, but if it's Artificer, that would be a very smart way to justify revamping Quel'thalas and Azuremyst as the Draenei and Belves are the two prominent engineer races after the midgets (including Dwarves).