Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Hyde]

Imagine getting scared of the words he him she her. Yikes.

imagine thinking people who use they and them are afraid of he or she yikes

[huth]

There was a supposedly leaker yesterday who told there will be Artificer class and new Earthen race.

Which is rather sketchy since we just had a new class and race.

[Dragon ANX]

no pirates....

I Believe in Pirates Ybarra can't crush my dreams

[Jaggler]

It's Shadowlands all the way down!

We Ally with the Ark-One, The Primussy, the Autumn Queen and Prince Ran-A-Hotel against Jae'lor who was actually behind the Janitor's plans in SL

[pacotaco]

Theme - 9/10
Execution 6/10
Utilization of potential 4/10
Balance 4/10
Reasons to play for long time 2/10

Finish M,Hc m+ and go home see ya next patch
(servers are empty af for a looong time)

Feeling of scrapped content (at least - 1 tier)
class balance is a fucking joke (hard 5 spec meta)
Taking advantage of the potential:
Where's Galakrond or another big fat bastard dat can be killed as the main boss of the expansion?!?!
(instead we got unfledged chicks with mental problems)

hell yea df is best exp pack so far!

Class balance is OK. The problem is just how M+ scales making survivability better than anything at high levels (>20).
They need to rethink how M+ works, not changes the classes so they fit M+, because then you'll have problems in raids or PvP

[ricardimundo]

problem with Tinker/Artificer is that Engineering has all the bombs, trinkets, etc. How do you not cannibalize the profession with the class (just thinking out loud)?

[Zankai27]

Whose talking about an Artcifer?

The previous page had tons of it, have been too busy to dig for the origins

[M1dkn1ght]

Dragonflight is definitely a safe expansion which is a massive improvement over the past couple expansions. Now it's time for them to take lessons learned and take a big risk across the board. I believe an Avaloren expansion is too much of a risk since players have little interest in Avaloren. Perhaps they need to build it up over an expansion or two.

[Keyalios]

I Believe in Pirates Ybarra can't crush my dreams

Don’t you guys have phon… Outlaws?

[J Street]

I've said 400 pages ago and I'll say it again, until players learn how to take L's in a faction war, I don't think blizzard should do it again. Every time a faction takes a large loss in the war, the opposite faction immediately thinks they deserve an equal value win somewhere else which is both unrealistic and makes a boring war story.

Sometimes it's okay to just lose straight up sometimes. War isn't fair or equal. But players can't handle being on the lesser side without throwing a fit about it for years. No compelling war story is ever 50/50

[Samin]

Hold up why are people talking about an Artificer class? Cuz if that's a thing I'm going to shit, that (aside from a dragon-themed class, which we now have) is my number one want for years.

Someone doing a riddle routine said new class would be artificer apparently (I eventually stopped bothering to check the binary). It's about as (un)believable as your average "leak" - adjust your hope accordingly

[Raetary]

Is the new WoW book out for EU/UK?

Can't find it on Audible & Amazon has it released Nov. 7?

Apparently not.

There doesn't seem to be an official global release date.
Pretty much all UK online book stores have it either not listed at all, listed as unavailable or as not yet released.
Amazon is not shipping it outside the US.

So, it's either Nov. 7th, as that is when the kindle version comes out, or some other time.

[Zankai27]

There was a supposedly leaker yesterday who told there will be Artificer class and new Earthen race.

Do you know what page that was on? Before the page where everyone's entertaining that, all there is is a sea of morons bitching about wokeness

[Makorus]

I've said 400 pages ago and I'll say it again, until players learn how to take L's in a faction war, I don't think blizzard should do it again. Every time a faction takes a large loss in the war, the opposite faction immediately thinks they deserve an equal value win somewhere else which is both unrealistic and makes a boring war story.

Sometimes it's okay to just lose straight up sometimes. War isn't fair or equal. But players can't handle being on the lesser side without throwing a fit about it for years. No compelling war story is ever 50/50

That's the issue I have with faction stories.

It can never result in anything because the fanbase is full of babies.

[Harbour]

Do you know what page that was on? Before the page where everyone's entertaining that, all there is is a sea of morons bitching about wokeness

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...hread/page2327

[Sondrelk]

problem with Tinker/Artificer is that Engineering has all the bombs, trinkets, etc. How do you not cannibalize the profession with the class (just thinking out loud)?

No reason both can't have bombs. Survival has used grenades for years now and it hasn't really felt redundant at all.

[Kiivar86]

problem with Tinker/Artificer is that Engineering has all the bombs, trinkets, etc. How do you not cannibalize the profession with the class (just thinking out loud)?

Engineering has a long, rich history of being nerfed and mistreated, this wouldn't be the first time.

[Harbour]

Yeah, Engineering arsenal is just the fraction of what Artificers can use. If the leak is legit, i expect mechanized tank spec, rocket launcher-turret dps and support or healer spec with healing turrets, healing grenades and other fun stuff WC3 Alchemist style.

[Nightshade711]

problem with Tinker/Artificer is that Engineering has all the bombs, trinkets, etc. How do you not cannibalize the profession with the class (just thinking out loud)?

Imo it’s not an issue if there’s some overlap with the class & engineering.
Kinda like how it’s not an issue that DKs & their Runeforging exists when enchanting is a thing.

(Which it would be cool if Artificers got their own subprofession like DKs do to customize their gadgets and/or mech idk)

[Sondrelk]

Dragonflight is definitely a safe expansion which is a massive improvement over the past couple expansions. Now it's time for them to take lessons learned and take a big risk across the board. I believe an Avaloren expansion is too much of a risk since players have little interest in Avaloren. Perhaps they need to build it up over an expansion or two.

Big risks doesn't seem like a good idea. More risks for sure, but I don't think WoW is ready for a fully experimental expansion, or one that tries to coast fully on the plot like MoP. I still think you need something more familiar, and something that is a big crowd pleaser.