Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nathanyel]

And what would make Blizzard suddenly change their methods? Only doing new stuff is more marketable.

Only if you're only targetting people who played every expansion.
New players couldn't tell whether this zone in the trailer is old or new, and returning to 'forgotten' lands can bring back lapsed subscribers who liked that expansion.

[Makorus]

I guess you missed the GIANT BLOODY SWORD sticking out of the world? To say expansions have noeffect on the worldoutside of their own release period is just not true. Many other examples.

Yeah? And that's what the game needs more of?

Even then, that was just making Kalimdor and EK relevant, which is not what we need.

The new Tree being exactly where Teldrassil was and just resetting the status quo instead of doing something interesting like planting it on the Dragon Isles and opening up more development is just so typical WoW players it's insane.

You guys bitch about boring writing yet every suggestion is just the same old story retold with the same old faces and it feels like you just want a re-telling of Vanilla -> Wrath in a loop.

[Nathanyel]

It's a playerbase, it doesn't speak with one voice. Different people like different things.

I guess my main point is that there are so many voices who are just wrong.

People's opinions that they don't like something are perfectly valid, but they also come up with harebrained reasons why they're objectively right not to like something.

[huth]

And one of the things they haven’t done is make old zones relevant for future content even though they have a huge amount of dragon centaur or elf related places they could be sending us to regularly for one reason or another.

It’s nothing more then wishful thinking.

Eh, i'd rather not constantly have to go to some old out of the way place. It may sound cool, but it'd be rather a chore in practice.

[Nymrohd]

Eh, i'd rather not constantly have to go to some old out of the way place. It may sound cool, but it'd be rather a chore in practice.

Plus it would spread the playerbase too thin. Imo if they ever wanted to make more of the world useful, they need to copy what ESO does. In ESO you almost always have an event up that increases your chance of getting collectibles in this or that zone which moves much of the population of the game to those zones for a couple of weeks.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Plus it would spread the playerbase too thin. Imo if they ever wanted to make more of the world useful, they need to copy what ESO does. In ESO you almost always have an event up that increases your chance of getting collectibles in this or that zone which moves much of the population of the game to those zones for a couple of weeks.

Events for Gold sounds nice but I have no idea what you're referencing in ESO as I never got to level cap.

[Foolicious]

So what are we thinking about the magical portal on top of the new World Tree?

It seems possible they could be hiding an actual city inside of there, or at least something like the Druid order hall.

My guess is either the megadungeon or a portal to a place the nightelfs can live. I don't think there will be a full fledged city yet, but after seeing the tree my hopes of a city build in the tree are gone.
Probably some place in ardenweald.

[Cheezits]

My guess is either the megadungeon or a portal to a place the nightelfs can live. I don't think there will be a full fledged city yet, but after seeing the tree my hopes of a city build in the tree are gone.
Probably some place in ardenweald.

It'll be in the Dream if anything.

[Lahis]

You're right, but the argument was that having the new NElf capital (or "main settlement") in the Dragon Isles would make for a good reason to return there in later expansions.

It is not Stormwind.

So there is no reason to return to it.

[Nymrohd]

Events for Gold sounds nice but I have no idea what you're referencing in ESO as I never got to level cap.

Don't need to get to level cap. All through the year, beyond the holiday events, ESO has multiple events dedicated to specific Chapters or DLC. You might have an event that doubles all rewards from Brotherhood missions or another that doubles rewards from the Greymoor chapter.

Say we had the dream evergreen revamp that spreads world quests, rares and world events all over the world beyond questlines. Every say 4 weeks you could have an event that focuses on a specific part of the map or expansion. So for these four weeks, Blackrock Mountain is affected and everything in Searing Gorge, Burning Steppes and Badlands as well as any dungeons attached to it gets double rewards. Combine this with timewalking and affect the expansions too, but not just for a week. Perhaps involve everyone instead of just world quest people and instead of having 4 current dungeons plus 4 fixed have 4 current dungeons + 4 dungeons from the event/TW area.

This way players can play in two places; they can stay in the current expac or if they have done all they want from it they can switch to whatever TW/Old World area is currently featured.

[Hellspawn]

I don't like the idea that the Nelf "capital" is in the dream. It divorces them from Azeroth in a way.
It is a cool idea for a new race that started that way, some Fae race but it does not seem right for Nelfs.

[Murlocos]

The tree grows into a single note that says "Maybe the real home was the friends we made along the way" and Shandris jumps in front of a fatal Primalist laser beam while Tyrande is reading it or something.

[Hellspawn]

- The Bronze flight has created a portal which brings you back to the ancient forests of Kalimdor, 10 000 years ago.

You don't seem to understand the problem, that would remove them from their current home and from the Azeroth that matters even more... literally living in the past lol

- Nothing, the tree is just a glorified art asset symbolising the Night Elves having found peace at last, while the survivors flock to Hyjal or someplace else.

We can be already pretty sure that Nelfs will move to the place, Kalimdor is their old home and dragon isle on the tree the new one according to Malf (this is from patch 10.0)

[Pheraz]

Some possible options, which aren't just "the Emerald Dream":

- The Bronze flight has created a portal which brings you back to the ancient forests of Kalimdor, 10 000 years ago.
- Ysera has let the Night Elves into the heart of the Emerald Dream, the capital city: The Eye of Ysera.
- A Death/Life sanctum forged on the border between Ardenweald and the Emerald Dream, filled by the living and souls of the fallen, existing in harmony.
- Nothing, the tree is just a glorified art asset symbolising the Night Elves having found peace at last, while the survivors flock to Hyjal or someplace else.

I dream of this so often as an expansion. Time travel xpacs are not liked since orc utopia but this would be so cool IMO. Playing on ancient kalimdor with queldorei, trolls, insect boys, old gods and what not ....

[Cheezits]

Did WoW Twitter just spoil that Vyranoth shows up somewhere in 10.1? As far as I know she isn't in the main campaign which has been tested.

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1649850565097037826

[Fahrad Wagner]

Did WoW Twitter just spoil that Vyranoth shows up somewhere in 10.1? As far as I know she isn't in the main campaign which has been tested.

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/1649850565097037826

I think it's more to tease the fact we're gonna come head to head with the three Prime Incarnates for the first time in 10.1. Although we'll probably only deal with the fire one first.

[Nightmare Queen]

Even trying to replace a king he considered incompetent by raising the most revered king of Zandalar and replacing Rastakhan with Dazar makes sense. The part that makes no sense is G'huun.

Ok but Dazar didn't exactly seem friendly when Zul woke him up. Honestly, I could see him complaining that Zandalar has changed to much and just going back to sleep for a few centuries

[huth]

Ok but Dazar didn't exactly seem friendly when Zul woke him up. Honestly, I could see him complaining that Zandalar has changed to much and just going back to sleep for a few centuries

The only reason he even attacks you is because Zul forces him to. Once you break the control, the fight ends. He's not a willing ally of Zul, not even remotely.

[Skytotem]

We can be already pretty sure that Nelfs will move to the place, Kalimdor is their old home and dragon isle on the tree the new one according to Malf (this is from patch 10.0)

I sincerely hope they backtrack on trying to pull the nelfs out of Kalimdor, I don't understand WHY they would do this.

What does Blizzard gain by moving them out of the Old World zones of Kalimdor, or Even EK, and sticking them in an expansion zone?

What story do they think they're telling for the nelfs that benefits from that in any way?

I can't understand the reasoning behind it.

[Nathanyel]

It is not Stormwind.

So there is no reason to return to it.

I meant for quests, not for AH and idling around (just standing around in a capital has always been such a non-gameplay to me)