Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[lostsoup]

Both legs are entirely different, but that could be part of the design.

Newer races don't have gear as part of its model but instead wear actual armor pieces, and Blizzard doesn't really make asymmetrical gear let alone boots.

[Thaumaturgus]

This part of the boots also suffers from major AI inconsistency. I can't believe it took us this long to inspect the dwarf more closely...

this.

hard to tell with the low quality, but the texturing reminds me of a bad version of the hunter mail boots from ICC, the ones that had the little toe parts on them

[Neoplanet]

Binary leak:

Stormforged Earthen playable race
World revamp
Khaz Algar zone
New Artificer class
Transmog armor type limitations removed

Can someone say what happened with the "Shadows os Azeroth" one ?

[Marlamin]

Why are 'we' upset about the screenshots if they turn out to be real? I dont understand why, a forest is a forest, what are people expecting?

I don't know either really, it seems like an extremely petty thing to waste energy on and get upset about with this amount of information when the information isn't even verified yet. So much wasted energy.

It would be so insane considering how it leaked. But what a bait & switch it would be.

Datamining would legitimately never be the same again.

[Mecheon]

Both legs are entirely different, but that could be part of the design.

Blizz doesn't typically do non-mirrored textures, though. Plus it just doesn't look right. OOne of the reasons I've settled on it most likely being fake, the texture just doesn't match how Blizzard do their textures.

I'd also point out the Direhorn's body. If you know the mini-pet direhorn, notice that it has actual segments built into the in the model to look like its made of stone, not just the texture. But the direhorn? Its just the stock Direhorn model retextured to look like it has cracks. Like, the Direhorn from MoP and a new texture just laid on top of it rather than a proper remold. Even the owlbears we're getting next patch got more work done to them to stand out to regular bears than that

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Why are 'we' upset about the screenshots if they turn out to be real? I dont understand why, a forest is a forest, what are people expecting?

I mean, revamp crew probably upset its not a revamp but like. Odds are really low on this expansion being a revamp anyway so I think they're ready for that. But the pictures just look bad. If this the best they can do for "The big new World of Warcraft expansion being revealed at Blizzcon, the big Blizzard convention", and its basically easy to confuse with someone mucking about with making fake stuff (and not even like, good fake stuff, the old pre-TBC fake Pandaren model someone made decades ago looks better), then it isn't a good sign for a good expansion

[Harbour]

Personally not a fan of ALL transmog restrictions being removed.
Weapon must be shared, but I'd prefer armor being restricted within armor types, so cloth class can wear any cloth gear whether it's priest, mage or warlock, but not plate, leather or mail.

[Nyel]

Why are 'we' upset about the screenshots if they turn out to be real? I dont understand why, a forest is a forest, what are people expecting?

Also im bummed out i cant use my very old account anymore so i made a new one, anyone know if mods can retroactively change my email on an old account i cant access?

We‘re venturing to a brand, mysterious, magically hidden new continent on the other side of Azeroth that was completely remote from the evolution on Azeroth. Wow, life must be totally different there, right? Oh no, it’s not, it’s exactly like Azeroth.

What do we find there? A Dwarfen civilization that has the same statue as the Wildhammer clan, Harpies that look exactly like the ones on Azeroth (okay, they’re electro-cute-d) and flora / biomes that look exactly like everything else on Azeroth.

Sorry, this couldn’t really be worse than that.

Yes yes this make sooooo much sense.

[micwini]

Newer races don't have gear as part of its model but instead wear actual armor pieces, and Blizzard doesn't really make asymmetrical gear let alone boots.

idk, im guessing there are already ingame models with asymmetrical legs. Dont have time to research tho.
I hope they are fake, but im just having a feeling it is the real thing unfortunately.

[Sondrelk]

Why are 'we' upset about the screenshots if they turn out to be real? I dont understand why, a forest is a forest, what are people expecting?

Also im bummed out i cant use my very old account anymore so i made a new one, anyone know if mods can retroactively change my email on an old account i cant access?

Because they look boring. And since this is presumably the features trailer than only tends to use the choicest shots, it paints a poor picture of the overall expansion.

It honestly just comes down to a simple question of why we see these images, and not the ones with exciting new architecture, iconic landmarks, new NPC models, or exciting new gameplay features.

It could just be the most boring shots from the trailer, though that feels unlikely given four images being a large sample size when seemingly not taken in succession.

[Akatsui]

I don't know either really, it seems like an extremely petty thing to waste energy on and get upset about with this amount of information when the information isn't even verified yet. So much wasted energy.



Datamining would legitimately never be the same again.

I agree with your sentiment. Been a long time fan of the parrot btw.

[Nebron]

Given it is our only solid lead I'm kinda hoping it was a giant misdirect for the first time in WoW history, realistically as likely as me winning the lottery when I don't play, but just imagine.

Yeah, I was thinking for some time whether it's possible, i.e. based on historical data, if Algarian Stormrider could have been some sort of red herring implanted by Blizzard on purpose, so that any legit leak that potinetially goes public and does not include Khaz Algar, will be met with much more resistance and disbelief, since it won't line up with what has been datamined (which serves to some degree as a source of truth). That would give Blizzard the upper hand with almost no effort and create a pretty interesting precedent for future

[lostsoup]

Personally not a fan of ALL transmog restrictions being removed.
Weapon must be shared, but I'd prefer armor being restricted within armor types, so cloth class can wear any cloth gear whether it's priest, mage or warlock, but not plate, leather or mail.

There's so much armor type agnostic gear now, like Heritage sets, trading post gear, Holiday items like the lovely dresses, etc. that armor type restrictions are honestly just an unnecessary limitation now. If you want to look like a caster in plate you can, if you want to be a Death Knight tank that looks like a caster you can. This would just let people be even more creative with their sets.

[shade3891]

I dont think revamp will happen with 11.0

In best case scenario- we'll get Azuremyst and QT connected to mainland. (aka no loading screens).

World revamp/graphical update IS coming for sure. But probably for 20 years Bday.... or as "break in case of emergency" glass if next expansion gives bad numbers as DF did.

What would be the point of connecting those, unless they revamp the entire zones?

[Lady Atia]

Personally not a fan of ALL transmog restrictions being removed.
Weapon must be shared, but I'd prefer armor being restricted within armor types, so cloth class can wear any cloth gear whether it's priest, mage or warlock, but not plate, leather or mail.

But why? With the amount of cosmetic sets that are already available this restriction makes literally zero sense anymore. You can already wear "plate" as a priest, and you can already run around like a Kirin Tor mage while playing a death knight.

[Akatsui]

Because they look boring. And since this is presumably the features trailer than only tends to use the choicest shots, it paints a poor picture of the overall expansion.

It honestly just comes down to a simple question of why we see these images, and not the ones with exciting new architecture, iconic landmarks, new NPC models, or exciting new gameplay features.

It could just be the most boring shots from the trailer, though that feels unlikely given four images being a large sample size when seemingly not taken in succession.

I think they look nice personally, maybe a bit samey. Personally I'd like a more fantastical setting like the temporal conflux or area 52 things, but I'm not too bothered with the more grounded looking things.

[Derunik]

...and Blizzard doesn't really make asymmetrical gear let alone boots.

Mail users would beg to differ, if only we got even shoulders on all of our sets, maybe there'd be 1 or 2 good tmogs out there for us then.

[Thaumaturgus]

Why are 'we' upset about the screenshots if they turn out to be real? I dont understand why, a forest is a forest, what are people expecting?

personally, I'm upset about it not only because all the stuff in it looks low quality, (the vistas are okay) but mostly its because I don't want another Dragonflight, not because Dragonflight was bad, but because another 4 zone island that doesnt have anything unique (from what we can see in this preview) would be hard to want to spend 2 years doing things on. other zone previews from previous expansions have a bit of "awe" about them, this feels like they took some bits from BfA and a bit from WoD and called it a day.

[Marlamin]

Yeah, I was thinking for some time whether it's possible, i.e. based on historical data, if Algarian Stormrider could have been some sort of red herring implanted by Blizzard on purpose, so that any legit leak that potinetially goes public and does not include Khaz Algar, will be met with much more resistance and disbelief, since it won't line up with what has been datamined (which serves to some degree as a source of truth). That would give Blizzard the upper hand with almost no effort and create a pretty interesting precedent for future

I would love it, really. They've never done anything like that so I doubt it is the case here but holy hell would it cause an upset amongst dataminers.

[Akatsui]

Current Avaloren is not breachable, need to use the Timeways to alter time so Avaloren can be reached in 'our' time. Our timeline is no longer set in stone since we stopped Nozdormu from becoming Murozond. Aman'thul is not happy, can't leave the Seat of the Pantheon because of Sargeras and Illidan, sets Odyn on us.

Also, I haven't really seen people talk about this 'leak' yet, I think it could be cool if they handle it properly. Timetravel doesn't have to be bad or boring per definition.

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personally, I'm upset about it not only because all the stuff in it looks low quality, (the vistas are okay) but mostly its because I don't want another Dragonflight, not because Dragonflight was bad, but because another 4 zone island that doesnt have anything unique (from what we can see in this preview) would be hard to want to spend 2 years doing things on. other zone previews from previous expansions have a bit of "awe" about them, this feels like they took some bits from BfA and a bit from WoD and called it a day.

Yeah that's fair I guess. The grassy direhorn makes me think of Zuldazar, while it was a great zone, it got really stale.

[FlemmMinis]

Mail users would beg to differ, if only we got even shoulders on all of our sets, maybe there'd be 1 or 2 good tmogs out there for us then.

Imagine being able to See your Mail transmog.*

*sponsored by the dracthyr need better mogs org