Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[M1dkn1ght]

Final Prediction for tomorrow:

10.3 Avaloren Patch
11.0 Void / World Revamp
Cata Classic
SoM2 / Hardcore Updates
WoW on Game Pass on release of 11.0

[Stonecloak]

You know how many people buy 6 months sub packages because of the mount? MS goal is to get wow subs to also subscribe to GP moving revenue around only benefits the consumer not them and thats why it didnt happen with ESO and wont happen here.

So youll see cross promotions and what I could eventually imagine is that you get the latest expansion with GP but thats it.

I see your point, I just think MS is prepared to provide at a loss in certain areas to build up Gamepass sub numbers. I'm not sure exactly what the situation is with ESO and GamePass tbh, and why that isn't included. You could be right that they don't include it, or maybe they don't charge for expansions, or possibly increase the sub to 20 to add Wow. I just know their goal is more player numbers to Gamepass than revenue chasing.

But this is exactly the problem right? You're not some magical new customer who previously hadn't been subbed to either thing, you're someone already interested in both who might put in an extra few months. And in the mean time they've just taken a hard 30% loss on all wow subs, forever, and given the 30+ million people who are already subbed to game pass (potential customers who might buy a month or two full priced sub to wow) "free" wow access.

Good point. Idk how it'll play out. I just wouldn't be entirely surprised if they did merge it with Game Pass even if it's seems illogical.

[Pinksocking]

OK, i have some infos, ask me!

No u don't

But what u got

[justwatching]

I see your point, I just think MS is prepared to provide at a loss in certain areas to build up Gamepass sub numbers. I'm not sure exactly what the situation is with ESO and GamePass tbh, and why that isn't included. You could be right that they don't include it, or maybe they don't charge for expansions, or possibly increase the sub to 20 to add Wow. I just know their goal is more player numbers to Gamepass than revenue chasing.

Yeah they are thats why they spend $70B to get CoD. I think they are way more focused on squeezing more profit out of ATVI the next few years.

Final Prediction for tomorrow:

10.3 Avaloren Patch
11.0 Void / World Revamp
Cata Classic
SoM2 / Hardcore Updates
WoW on Game Pass on release of 11.0

My mans mainlining the copium.

[Chickat]

Yeah, that's fair. Tomorrow is going to be absolutely crazy with all the stuff the teams have to do/release, at least they got the Warcraft Rumble launch out of the way.

If a Revamp doesn't happen there might be a small backlash online. Even normies on Reddit want one. Maybe now they will finally take us seriously.

[Pinksocking]

My only prediction: nzoth in the cinematic

[KyleEverett]

If a Revamp doesn't happen there might be a small backlash online. Even normies on Reddit want one. Maybe now they will finally take us seriously.

I think the only way they fail if all we get is expanding Dynamic Flying, 4 zones, 8 dungeons, 1 raid at launch.

[Chickat]

Final Prediction for tomorrow:

10.3 Avaloren Patch
11.0 Void / World Revamp
Cata Classic
SoM2 / Hardcore Updates
WoW on Game Pass on release of 11.0

Pretty bold predictions.

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I think the only way they fail if all we get is expanding Dynamic Flying, 4 zones, 8 dungeons, 1 raid at launch.

True but that's a distinct possibility.

[Akhinos]

What is love?

Love is the eternal human need to seek transcendent meaning in an insignificant existence.



The information I have is: Blizzard is trolling. All you saw were baits, and you believed them. There will be no Avaloren, Stone Dwarves, Khaz Algar. It won't be anything like you thought. And no, there was never any leak that was real. All leaks are fake.

How do I know this? Let's say I know important people, who have a lot of money to make from the first impressions of what will be announced tomorrow. I don't know what the product will be, what I do know is that they launched a disinformation campaign.

[Paula Deen]

Final Prediction for tomorrow:

10.3 Avaloren Patch
11.0 Void / World Revamp
Cata Classic
SoM2 / Hardcore Updates
WoW on Game Pass on release of 11.0

The dream.

[NelfMohawk]

Love is the eternal human need to seek transcendent meaning in an insignificant existence.



The information I have is: Blizzard is trolling. All you saw were baits, and you believed them. There will be no Avaloren, Stone Dwarves, Khaz Algar. It won't be anything like you thought. And no, there was never any leak that was real. All leaks are fake.

How do I know this? Let's say I know important people, who have a lot of money to make from the first impressions of what will be announced tomorrow. I don't know what the product will be, what I do know is that they launched a disinformation campaign.

If you're going to larp that you know "important people" you should at least make it believable.

[Mecheon]

If a Revamp doesn't happen there might be a small backlash online. Even normies on Reddit want one. Maybe now they will finally take us seriously.

As much as there is a revamp crowd, there is an anti-revamp crowd who'll negate the backlash

Revamp stuff is absolutely on Blizz's radar per those interviews, but, the Big Showy Expansion at Blizzcon, the Blizzard convention, can't just be "Hey remember that time we updated these zones in patches? We're doing it again but this time you gotta fork out cash". You gotta have something new to draw in people watching, get people resubbing to check out the new thing, and get people excited for whatever New thing they can poke around in

Of course, it needs to be specifically New that you can't confuse it with previous stuff. As such, revamp stuff falls squarely into that same space as the 4 screenshots in that a revamp isn't different enough from what we already have to get people that excited

[Puupi]

The information I have is: Blizzard is trolling. All you saw were baits, and you believed them. There will be no Avaloren, Stone Dwarves, Khaz Algar. It won't be anything like you thought. And no, there was never any leak that was real. All leaks are fake.

How do I know this? Let's say I know important people, who have a lot of money to make from the first impressions of what will be announced tomorrow. I don't know what the product will be, what I do know is that they launched a disinformation campaign.

Nope, try harder.

[Edlarel]

Maybe he means MrGM who went to something at Irvine for a couple of days.

Yes, sorry, i don't actually follow them, I just read about it

[Explicit Teemo Nudes]

So Accolonn thinks that we are going to Avaloren, but instead of going by sea or flying because of the storms, we are going there by going underground. Kind of like that joke that if you, as a Westerner, dig through the earth you will end up in China. Thoughts? :P

[Pinksocking]

Nope, try harder.

Wym nope

All leaks were fake tho lmao

[NoTimeToDie5426]

So Accolonn thinks that we are going to Avaloren, but instead of going by sea or flying because of the storms, we are going there by going underground. Kind of like that joke that if you, as a Westerner, dig through the earth you will end up in China. Thoughts? :P

That could be very cool honestly. Would probably be extremely hard to execute on Blizzard's end though, so I don't think it is likely. Maybe we would go through... Deepholm?

[Dnusha]

I do know is that they launched a disinformation campaign.

i mean good for them if it's true. Excitement from a surprise often provides better sales in future and more publicity.

[Puupi]

Wym nope

All leaks were fake tho lmao

By nope I mean that guy is a kid who knows nothing and is full of shit. Took a 10 second peek at his post history and noped the fuck out.

[Myrrh]

The information I have is: Blizzard is trolling. All you saw were baits, and you believed them. There will be no Avaloren, Stone Dwarves, Khaz Algar. It won't be anything like you thought. And no, there was never any leak that was real. All leaks are fake.

How do I know this? Let's say I know important people, who have a lot of money to make from the first impressions of what will be announced tomorrow. I don't know what the product will be, what I do know is that they launched a disinformation campaign.

Washed up content creators who haven't felt the emotion known as 'joy' for the last 15 years and whose primary income relies on spending an alpha/beta cycle hyping up new content for a game they loathe, and then another 18 months criticising that same content on retail for clicks? Are those the people?