Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[PotHockets]

Dragonflight is 5 years after Shadowlands right? That would make Anduin about 25 (same age as me as it happens) - he looks great

If War Within is set 1-2 years after Dragonflight as expansions normally progress, he's 26-7

Thrall also has grey hair on his new model, dude must be pushing 50 at this point, it just shows more in a cinematic

I don't think Anduin can have a normal age applied to him anymore. Time moves differently in the Shadowlands and we have no idea how long he was in there from his point of view.

[Cheezits]

I am also willing to bet the Arathi will be Half-Vrykul but not fat like Kul Tirans.

[kavikor]

i shat on dragonflight and now i'm shitting on this new expansion that looks just like dragonflight with a different skin. i'm just being coherent

Also, i don't like paying more money to get less content. a "faster release" is not something to be happy about

Dragonflight is on this same schedule it seems like with no 10.3, so we've hypothetically already paid for less content twice

[Moth Preacher]

Honestly, I'm glad for people who are enjoying the thing, but personally I feel very conflicted.

Probably going to wait more interviews before making any conclusions for myself

[JDBlou]

If titans are returning then Illidan is all but confirmed, surely? There's no way he could even begin to hold Sargy by himself. Which begs the question of, is big boy himself coming with.

And the whole concept of this being the end of a saga, seems like the time for an iconic character victory lap. I do wonder if Sargeras is going to be on our side when he shows up or are we just taking out the whole pantheon "Our destiny is our own" etc etc.

[Wangming]

I bet Thrall will die and Alleria will go crazy by the end of TWW.

I mean them saying she will have a rivalry with Xalatath is pretty telling.

[Raetary]

Maybe/probably final update to this years hype train:

[rainhard]

Honestly this super short non actiony cinematic of these absolutely amazing models makes me think this will be like in BfA with a series of cinematics.

[Baraden]

He was also futzing around in the Shadowlands for a bit right? Could make his actual age a bit more variable.

Doesn't time not really apply in the shadowlands? I feel like I've heard that somewhere

He was 20 in BFA; so if we assume Shadowlands was a year - at most he's 28 in War Within, which to be fair is roughly how he looks in the cinematic - grizzled but he still has young eyes

[Fahrad Wagner]

I can't wait for the datamining and see if we get new race customisations with the next expansion!

[Zazajin]

Dragonflight is 5 years after Shadowlands right? That would make Anduin about 25 (same age as me as it happens) - he looks great

If War Within is set 1-2 years after Dragonflight as expansions normally progress, he's 26-7

Thrall also has grey hair on his new model, dude must be pushing 50 at this point, it just shows more in a cinematic

I thought Anduin looked more closer to his mid 30s in the trailer, if not even Varian's age. He looks older than mid 20s.

[PotHockets]

We also have the Void Lords to deal with, the Pantheon of Life were set up in 10.2, these expansions seem to be building up towards the other Cosmic Realms, etc.

Makes me wonder if we'll see more of the Nether as well tbh. Regardless, Midnight made it clear that we're simply "banishing them forever", and even then, things might not go to plan (it is Azeroth, afterall).

I do like that Blizzards doubling down on the whole "players are an unstoppable force" stuff tho. That's cool!

They said we're stopping the threat of the Void for good in Midnight.

[Santandame]

Sure. But we are talking about peeps who just shit on everything and then are astonished that peeps don't share their negativity. People here also have the right to be really happy about the reveal.

For the record, to me personally, whilst the zones look lovely and Xal looks cool, I think what I’ve seen so far looks very, very underwhelming. I’m not a fan at all and this is the first time I’ve ever felt like this upon an expansion reveal.

I’m happy to be proven wrong when I do play it around launch time as that’s always going to be fun regardless but so far I am not impressed, and as a huge fan of this game, the “bad” expansions included like WoD and BfA, that’s a worrying sign for me. I was so hyped going into this Blizzcon with all the theories and expectations and this has just deflated me. This really does feel like filler because right now I’m more excited for Midnight and The Last Titan and just wish we could skip straight to that and have Xal’atath and the Nerubians as 10.3 patch content instead.

The early access feature is just the cherry on top.

[Darkarath]

I think that it is clear that after the 3 announced expansions we are getting a new Warcraft game. WoW 1.5 or WoW 2.0 or something else

Regarding the War Within, I have so many doubts. Good QoL changes, but Delves are seasonal? With seasonal rewards that you cannot get after the season is done like PVP? Hope that that is not the case.

I do not have a problem with an Underground continent but meh, I do not think that the zones would look very interesting, save for the Nerubian one.

Earthen allied race? I mean cool, but did someone asked for this?

Hero talents could be cool, we will see.

Ahhhh so many doubts. Right now I am leaning closer to leave the game, though. It seems that they want to charge us more money for less content.

[Wangming]

Honestly, I'm glad for people who are enjoying the thing, but personally I feel very conflicted.

Probably going to wait more interviews before making any conclusions for myself

That is probably smart.

Me? I'm uncharacteristicly positive about this.

[Makabreska]

i shat on dragonflight and now i'm shitting on this new expansion that looks just like dragonflight with a different skin. i'm just being coherent

Also, i don't like paying more money to get less content. a "faster release" is not something to be happy about

Well, you wont be paying, as you said. So what's the problem?

[huth]

So uh, what about the sword? Looked like it was used as a hype shot for the trailer but doesn't seem to actually be involved in the expansion's story?

It's story relevance is in what Sargeras was trying to achieve with it. Not in what it is doing now.

I don't think the trailer was going for hype anyway. It was a more somber approach.

[Nymrohd]

I am happy for warbands, hopeful for delves but what will sell me the expac is Hero Talents actually giving me multiple things I want.

[Baraden]

And the whole concept of this being the end of a saga, seems like the time for an iconic character victory lap. I do wonder if Sargeras is going to be on our side when he shows up or are we just taking out the whole pantheon "Our destiny is our own" etc etc.

I would bet every penny I own that we will see Illidan and a redeemed Sargeras returned at some point

[JDBlou]

They said we're stopping the threat of the Void for good in Midnight.

Oh so we're for sure finally killing Azshara right? Definitely going to be the final raid boss right?

I would bet every penny I own that we will see Illidan and a redeemed Sargeras returned at some point

It feels like a certainty. It's giving me MCU vibes, like if you have a head on your shoulders (i.e read the comics) you have a general idea of how things are going to go, it's just the plot points between them you don't quite have figured out yet.