Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Makabreska]

Yes. A filler expansion.

Well shit. Guess WotLK was a filler too?

You better be ready for every expansion since DF to be a filler, cuz I don't think they will bring back these loaded systems from the past.

[Chickat]

You are literally describing patch content. If you enjoy that, fair enough, but for me this is nowhere near enough to get me excited about an expansion.

Its not a patch ffs. Get tf out of here with that. It has as much content as any expansion aside from perhaps Legion.

[Sondrelk]

So is Vakthros just cut content? The place seemed super important, but we didn’t even get to go inside the structure. We only did like 5 story quests right outside of it

I believe I heard somewhere that it was originally supposed to be the lock to the Vault of the Incarnates, but that the idea was scrapped for whatever reason, and instead we just go to the Vault normally.
If I were to guess, then I would say that this plotline is the reason the main characters of the Vault is Khadgar and Kalecgos, who are otherwise pretty absent from the leadup to the raid opening.

[Nymrohd]

Its not a patch ffs. Get tf out of here with that. It has as much content as any expansion aside from perhaps Legion.

Or BfA. BfA had a ton of content.

[Chickat]

I see that now, thanks.

I gotta say, it felt a little bit more hype when it entailed a choice of alts to form a party with. Like, this is my main roster.

I can see that, but its good that all characters get everything. Maybe in the future they can do something with the camp idea. Like anyone in the camp gets extra xp while leveling, or you get to use the buffs from everyone in the camp while in the outdoor world. So you have a Mage, Paladin, Priest, Druid, Monk in the camp. All characters in that camp get all those 1 hour buffs to use while questing/doing world stuff.

Just an idea.

[Nymrohd]

I believe I heard somewhere that it was originally supposed to be the lock to the Vault of the Incarnates, but that the idea was scrapped for whatever reason, and instead we just go to the Vault normally.
If I were to guess, then I would say that this plotline is the reason the main characters of the Vault is Khadgar and Kalecgos, who are otherwise pretty absent from the leadup to the raid opening.

I guess people don't actually read things when they do achievements. There is an Ancient Stone on Vakthros.
https://www.wowhead.com/object=38172...nance#comments

A note to all guards and attendants--
although perhaps my finest work to date, Vakthros is also the most delicate.
Due to the nature of the enchantments provided to reinforce the nearby Vault, the tower has been keyed to every major ley line in the Azure Span. While ingenious, this does pose a considerable amount of risk.

If there are any signs of structural or arcane damage to the tower, report to me immediately. Should you fail to do so... well, I suppose you would not survive long enough to regret that decision.

Malygos

I am wondering if a lot of people just have me on ignore . . .

[Cheezits]

I do think there's something to be said that an expansion without a proper new race OR a class can feel like a downer. WOD at least had lots of player customization but we don't seem to be getting that for TWW.

Yes, we have an AR, but it's not a crazy new one like Kul Tirans or Vulpera in terms of their animations and its main gimmick is Dwarves on Horde. Hopefully they add a few more like Nerubians and Arathi if they look very distinctive.

[Chickat]

So is Vakthros just cut content? The place seemed super important, but we didn’t even get to go inside the structure. We only did like 5 story quests right outside of it

Feels like a good candidate for a dungeon or mini raid in the fated season.

[damonskye]

Yes. A filler expansion.

Yes, fine, we get it. You're not happy. How many more times do you have to say that to make yourself feel better?

Don't feel like you can repeat the same garbage using lazy catchphrases like "filler expansion" and think you've won any battles here. We're players just like you, and your opinion isn't fact. You are the boss of you, no one else. Buy it, don't buy it, it's your call. No one here, no one anywhere, is forcing you to play, or to feel better about things when you aren't.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

I believe I heard somewhere that it was originally supposed to be the lock to the Vault of the Incarnates, but that the idea was scrapped for whatever reason, and instead we just go to the Vault normally.
If I were to guess, then I would say that this plotline is the reason the main characters of the Vault is Khadgar and Kalecgos, who are otherwise pretty absent from the leadup to the raid opening.

It would feel bad to have dungeon where you fail to stop Raszageth from breaking the seal in Vakthros and to then follow it up with a raid where you fail to stop Raszageth from breaking the other three big bads out of prison.

[Sondrelk]

Id be more on board if they buffed normal flying speed. Like to say 500% instead of 310%. It would be nice for lazy people and people with accessibility issues.

Possibly. Though honestly, I wouldnt be mad if Dragonriding in general was a bit slower, probably best achieveed by lowering the "standard" speed down but keeping the maximum. It's both a bit too easy to reach max speed, and the zones feel small even after being massively increased in size by adding dead space everywhere.

[Cheezits]

Just realized Arathi might be a way to give some form of human on Horde lol.

[Chickat]

Four new zones, 8 new dungeons, a raid, 13 delves, leveling 70-80, hero talents and amazing quality of life changes aren't patch content. That's what an expansion is.

To be honest, I'm getting the impression that nothing short of a brand new game would make you happy. Do you really need a new time-wasting, one-and-done system to make you excited about this game? If so, maybe play some other games for a while and see if you like them instead? Just a suggestion.

If we got another Torghast level feature they would complain about that too no doubt.

If its the theme you dont like, its okay to take a break from WoW. If you are burned out say so, and take a break or quit. These people play wow for a decade or more and get bored with it. Its fine. But then instead of realizing its just them, they have to shit on the game, because they cant possibly be the problem. The game has as much new content as its ever had.

[pacotaco]

No Moonpriests....

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

I still have hope on getting a Night Warrior (Warden + Priestess of the Moon + Huntress) and Tinker classes. They don't show up as any of the planed hero specs.

[Telogrus]

I believe I heard somewhere that it was originally supposed to be the lock to the Vault of the Incarnates, but that the idea was scrapped for whatever reason, and instead we just go to the Vault normally.
If I were to guess, then I would say that this plotline is the reason the main characters of the Vault is Khadgar and Kalecgos, who are otherwise pretty absent from the leadup to the raid opening.

What happened to Khadgar anyways? He just vanished from the story after the Azure Span storyline

[Nymrohd]

I do think there's something to be said that an expansion without a proper new race OR a class can feel like a downer. WOD at least had lots of player customization but we don't seem to be getting that for TWW.

Yes, we have an AR, but it's not a crazy new one like Kul Tirans or Vulpera in terms of their animations and its main gimmick is Dwarves on Horde. Hopefully they add a few more like Nerubians and Arathi if they look very distinctive.

Delves and a World track for progression is potentially the most substantial feature added to WoW since Legion.

[UndedoKoleda]

Well shit. Guess WotLK was a filler too?

You better be ready for every expansion since DF to be a filler, cuz I don't think they will bring back these loaded systems from the past.

I've already answered about WoTLK

WotLK added the first ever new (hero)class to the Game, the Achievements, two different raid sizes, first ever fully PvP oriented zone and a bunch of other "first ever" stuff.

If you're trying to say that it is in any way comparable, you are clearly trolling.

[Sondrelk]

It would feel bad to have dungeon where you fail to stop Raszageth from breaking the seal in Vakthros and to then follow it up with a raid where you fail to stop Raszageth from breaking the other three big bads out of prison.

I doubt it would have been a dungeon. More likely it would have taken the place of the current raid questline where Razsageth shows up in in Tyrhold and taunts Alexstrasza.

[Chickat]

Yes. A filler expansion.

Thats not a thing. See I can underline and bold stuff too. Doesnt make it true.

[Cheezits]

Delves and a World track for progression is potentially the most substantial feature added to WoW since Legion.

They are very good features (and more impressive than DF imo) but races and classes are the two most popular expansion features.