Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Makorus]

WoW2 makes no sense. They can upgrade the engine without rebooting. Who actually wants a WoW 2?

[Xilurm]

Yes, WoW will always be the mainline game for Warcraft. I would expect them to release other warcraft games though, like you know, they just did with Warcraft Rumble. But they won't kill off WoW to make a WoW 2, especially now that we already have Classic and it's variants. Just because you don't give a fuck about your collections doesn't mean the other million people that play the game aren't either.

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This. Especially after Metzen "another 20 years" comment.

Or John Hight's 30 years.

[Paula Deen]

Double edged sword.

Announce three expansions to build hype around the future of your franchise and assure players that there is a plan.

Doomers on a Curse-Goblin Internet Forum will claim your game is going to be over afterwards or die before it ends.

Truly hilarious.

[Lady Atia]

I just had a thought - since Midnight will be centered around the elven tribes, what better time than that to have the Illidari teach the other races to become a DH? Of course we could get them before that during some minor patch, but I think it kinda would make sense. This time, they would use their fire not against the Burning Legion, but the Void and they would want any help they can get with defending the Sunwell.

Also also ..... aren't Naga and Satyr also kind of part of the Elven Tribes? I smell some potential for allied races there.

[Foolicious]

It just makes no sense.

Even if Anduin was too busy in his angst to read up on current events, someone should've told him at some point.

Remember back in shadowlands when some people were confused why anduin knew about the fate of bolvar? Everyone was thinking its because he is the highking of the alliance and must be the most informed human on the planet. Guess we were wrong.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Double edged sword.

Announce three expansions to build hype around the future of your franchise and assure players that there is a plan.

Doomers on a Curse-Goblin Internet Forum will claim your game is going to be over afterwards or die before it ends.

Truly hilarious.

Being myself something of a cynic about Blizzard, I'm personally a fan of this. While it sadly means the death of leak season and has a symptom of making me far more interested in the expansion that comes out five years from now than the next one, I think it's better to have a roadmap and forced commitment than not.

[vintage79]

You think WoW will last a total of 40+ years, and that Blizzard won't release a new mainline Warcraft game in the next two decades?

Are you being serious?

cata - wow is done
mop - nutz wow is done
wod - this is it - wow is gone
legion - they just bring ilidan kekw
bfa - wow is dead
sl - wow is dead
df - wow is disney

[pacotaco]

If that isn't an available set for plate, I am going to set holy fire to the corporate offices of Blizzard.

I'm kidding, this is not a confession if something like that happens.

Hopefully it gets a decent transfer from concept, though. Looking at you, some Heritage sets. :/

I think Art Book Crystalforge to TBC release Crystalforge is the biggest glow-down of all time.

I see plate, mail, leather and cloth sets there. Likely reputation rewards.

[Dracullus]

Double edged sword.

Announce three expansions to build hype around the future of your franchise and assure players that there is a plan.

Doomers on a Curse-Goblin Internet Forum will claim your game is going to be over afterwards or die before it ends.

Truly hilarious.

After Blizzcon I think there will be WoW2 around 2030 and one thing I'm sure about is that I'm not doomer.

First, it will be time to switch 25+ year old engine. You think they are gonna remake 1500 mounts, 3000 pets and bazylion transmog pieces?

Second, WoW2 is opportunity to shake a lot of ground stuff. There are simply things you can't do in expansion, for example you can't move race to different faction, remove archaic systems like TBC flying, etc.

Third, I think we all want to end WoW1 on high note, not inventing new threats every expansion. I really hope 13.2 boss will be finally Sargeras himself, you can't go more iconic than that (and thankfully this card wasn't used in Legion).

And most important - they can do interesting stuff in Midnight and go ALL IN in Last Titan from character progression POV. It's like Legion, but you don't have BfA hangover after this. I'm thinking about absolutely crazy stuff, something like full legendary gear to even start progressing final boss.

[pacotaco]

So are the Earthen an allied race instead of a regular race because they reuse the dwarf model and Blizz knows they would be shit on for calling that a new race? Or because they plan to add a few different ones through the expac and allied race is code for "not a full race but not the only one you'll get"?

Allied race is how the call the races you unlock through playing and not just by buying the expansion.

[Dracullus]

Btw, where are people who claimed there will be huge uproar about no 10.3? xD

[blaatschaap]

Maybe it's a hint? /jk

Trolls for the alliance!

[Rathwell]

Trolls for the alliance!

The Amani trolls, seeing the Horde allying with the Blood Elves, decide to join the Alliance for a chance to battle their mortal enemies.

Meanwhile the Vrykul decide to join the Horde after seeing how weak and puny their human descendants are.


Welcome to the worst timeline.

[Supertoster]

WoW2 makes no sense. They can upgrade the engine without rebooting. Who actually wants a WoW 2?

I want it. I want an MMORPG in the beloved universe, but with less archaic gameplay.
After so many years of playing WoW, I hate tab-target combat. I want more space for skill expression, I want PvP to matter, I want PvE be based on skillful execution rather than on boring rotations.

[vintage79]

Trolls for the alliance!

The Amani trolls, seeing the Horde allying with the Blood Elves, decide to join the Alliance for a chance to battle their mortal enemies.

Meanwhile the Vrykul decide to join the Horde after seeing how weak and puny their human descendants are.


Welcome to the worst timeline.

[Paula Deen]

Btw, where are people who claimed there will be huge uproar about no 10.3? xD

Playing classic or getting ready for 10.2 which hasn't even gone live yet lmao.

[huth]

For inexplicable reasons it has lowrider suspensions

I think it needs a giant old timey ship steering wheel and Odyn should wear sunglasses and smoke a pipe. Maybe wear a captain's hat, too.

[Dhomeli]

cata - wow is done
mop - nutz wow is done
wod - this is it - wow is gone
legion - they just bring ilidan kekw
bfa - wow is dead
sl - wow is dead
df - wow is disney

-snip-

Pretty much. I know several people that viewed Wrath as the end of WoW. Like legitimately were like “Arthas is dead, they should’ve just stopped there.” And here we are 7 expansions later. The way Metzen talked about setting up the next 20 years in these next 3 expansions tells me we’ll not only have an epic saga, but we’ll see the start of many new story threads they will be able to pick up following The Last Titan.

[blaatschaap]

Pretty much. I know several people that viewed Wrath as the end of WoW. Like legitimately were like “Arthas is dead, they should’ve just stopped there.” And here we are 7 expansions later. The way Metzen talked about setting up the next 20 years in these next 3 expansions tells me we’ll not only have an epic saga, but we’ll see the start of many new story threads they will be able to pick up following The Last Titan.

Certainly hope so. No other fantasy world speaks to me like the world of warcraft does. I believe Metzen when he says they're not messing around

[AOL Instant Messenger]

One thing I'm interested in are the Arathi. They seem markedly more advanced than the other human kingdoms, and I wonder if they're sort of going down the same path the draenei did under the influence of the naaru. I hope they wind up producing an allied race or something of the sort, since they're frankly the most interesting new addition to the lore for me alongside the implications of the new nerubian kingdom.

I am also inclined to wonder precisely why there are nerubians here: did they flee the Scourge? Were they a colony from before that time? Was the mutative influence of Yogg-Saron on a different Aqir colony projected from the same fissure that replicated the behavioral changes in the earthen, another product of Yogg-Saron?