1. #55901
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Unfortunately, this is what I see happening.

    Blizzard love their tragic corruption stories; And above all else, they love Windrunners starting conflicts.

    So I foresee Alleria giving into the whispers to destroy Xal'atath, paralleling Arthas giving into the whispers to destroy Mal'ganis.

    Ironically and tragically, Alleria's obsession with hunting the Void and its Harbinger will cause her to become the Harbinger of the Void invasion (just like Arthas' obsession with hunting the Scourge and Mal'ganis caused him to become their king); furthermore, Alleria ushering in the Void invasion of her homeland will parallel Kael'Thas' actions in TBC.
    Bonus points if Xal'atath holds Arator hostage and that's why Alleria goes nutso or she straight up kills Arator lol

    Let the hate flow through you...

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    I kinda feel like they'll probably bring back Sylvanas for Midnight and have her and a corrupted Alleria have a showdown where Sylvanas ends up mercy killing her.




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    I'm a bit disappointed that all the fun stuff is being overridden by the hubbub about 3 days early access.

    Like, personally, I don't care. I rarely get to play launch day anymore. But it's all anyone seems to care about.

  4. #55904
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    I kinda feel like they'll probably bring back Sylvanas for Midnight and have her and a corrupted Alleria have a showdown where Sylvanas ends up mercy killing her.
    I'd prefer if Veressa had to step up and do something in the absence of a sane Alleria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    I'd prefer if Veressa had to step up and do something in the absence of a sane Alleria.
    Ah yes... tbh, i forgot she even existed lmao.




  6. #55906
    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    No, no, no. Stop it right now.

    Alleria will track down and kill Xal'atath. She then returns a hero with a cadre of Void Elves at her side to aid in Silvermoon's defence, before the Quel'dorei unify under a single banner. Sylvanas represents the San'layn. Alleria the Ren'dorei. Vereesa the regular Quel'dorei.

    Everybody's happy, Turalyon does a high five with Arator, the end.
    Alleria will be sacrificed for Sylvanas.

    Alleria succumbing to the Void will conveniently align with Sylvanas finishing her dailies.

    So Sylvanas will return to Azeroth to defend Quel'Thalas from the Void, thus redeeming herself in the eyes of her people, and also to try and reason with Villain-batted Alleria, thus proving that she's changed and she's reformed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    I'd prefer if Veressa had to step up and do something in the absence of a sane Alleria.
    Vereesa is not popular enough.

    She is still stuck with a crusty 2008 model in 2023.

    No one really cares about Vereesa, but everyone loves Sylvanas.

    Look at Blizzcon; Sylvanas got the loudest cheers, along with Arthas.

    Sylvanas will conveniently finish her dailies when the Void is invading Quel'Thalas, she'll return to try and reason with her corrupted sister, thus proving that she's redeemed and reformed.

  7. #55907
    Alleria going crazy benefits everyone:

    -Vereesa forced to do something and stand as leader of the High Elves/Silver Covenant
    -Magister Umbric gets his chance to shine and be an actual character again for the Void Elves
    -Arthas parallels for an attack on Quel'thalas
    -Drama with Turalyon and Arator (and maybe Sylvanas)
    -Able to focus on Dimensius and Azshara instead of dragging Xal out for too long

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    I kinda feel like they'll probably bring back Sylvanas for Midnight and have her and a corrupted Alleria have a showdown where Sylvanas ends up mercy killing her.
    On one hand, it makes sense. On the other, should it not be Arator or Turalyon?

  9. #55909
    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    I'll say one thing: it is odd that they made an entirely new model for Sylvanas just for a single cutscene back in Shadowlands. I mean the one that makes her look like her old, living self.

    No clue how she'd be able to un-undeath herself, though.
    She can visit as she isn't actually dead, she is just bound on oath to rescue all the falsely imprisoned Maw souls.

    Per the Forsaken heritage quest part 2 she seems to have some kind of knowledge of stuff going on in Azeroth so it would make sense she knows if things go to shit, OR Tyrande personally allows her to come back to fix things.

  10. #55910
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Bonus points if Xal'atath holds Arator hostage and that's why Alleria goes nutso or she straight up kills Arator lol

    Let the hate flow through you...
    I don't hate the idea of Alleria getting villain-batted.

    In fact, I actually think that the AU scenario of Stormwind is badass.

    I just want the Alliance character to be cool, badass, savage for once, and you'll see that this sentiment is felt by many in the Alliance fanbase.

    How many Alliance players wanted Jaina to destroy Orgrimmar in MoP?

    How many Alliance players wanted Night Warrior Tyrande to destroy Orgrimmar in MoP?

    I thought it was badass that Alleria straight up sacrificed Arator to N'Zoth and that the Ren'dorei single-handedly destroyed Stormwind and ruled over its ruins in an apocalyptic future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Alleria going crazy benefits everyone:

    -Vereesa forced to do something and stand as leader of the High Elves/Silver Covenant
    -Magister Umbric gets his chance to shine and be an actual character again for the Void Elves
    -Arthas parallels for an attack on Quel'thalas
    -Drama with Turalyon and Arator (and maybe Sylvanas)
    -Able to focus on Dimensius and Azshara instead of dragging Xal out for too long
    All solid points. Honestly I know a lot of people love Xal, I just don't see it. I'd be OK with her dying at the end of TWW as long as she accomplishes something

  12. #55912
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    All solid points. Honestly I know a lot of people love Xal, I just don't see it. I'd be OK with her dying at the end of TWW as long as she accomplishes something
    I honestly don't think I'd be okay with her dying in TWW. Depends on how it's handled but Knaifu deserves her time to shine. She's easily one of the best MMO original characters.

  13. #55913
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    I kinda feel like they'll probably bring back Sylvanas for Midnight and have her and a corrupted Alleria have a showdown where Sylvanas ends up mercy killing her.
    This is kinda along the lines of what I think. I think they'll allow Sylvanas to help save a void threatened Quel'thalas to be a largeg part of her penance for her crimes and a self redemption, having never saved Quel'thalas from Arthas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    On one hand, it makes sense. On the other, should it not be Arator or Turalyon?
    It most certainly should.
    Arator killing his mother would be the emotional arc of the decade.

    But it'd also be a very easy way to shove Sylvanas back into the plot and capitalize on her character.




  15. #55915
    Maybe instead of Xal dying, her avatar/corpse body dies in TWW but she jumps into Alleria somehow? Similar idea. Or she sucks Alleria's soul into the knife and puppets her.

    Also would make it kind of a Sylvanas analog, just with a crazy void ghost instead of a banshee in a corpse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    It most certainly should.
    Arator killing his mother would be the emotional arc of the decade.

    But it'd also be a very easy way to shove Sylvanas back into the plot and capitalize on her character.
    If Xal survives and somehow corrupts Alleria, maybe Sylvanas could get a second chance to defend Silvermoon only instead of it being against her sister it could be against Xal.

  17. #55917
    Biggest confusion about 12.0: how will they make it so the Night Elves give a fuck? "We hate Azshara too" is all I got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Maybe instead of Xal dying, her avatar/corpse body dies in TWW but she jumps into Alleria somehow? Similar idea.

    Also would make it kind of a Sylvanas analog, just with a crazy void ghost instead of a banshee in a corpse.
    That's boring. She hops from a void elf form to another void elf form? I'd like to see her become a fleshy mass of tentacles instead.

  19. #55919
    https://twitter.com/Wowhead/status/1721261602668724568

    Her journey will be central to the events and themes of the War Within. She, as a void hunter, must use all of her capabilities to hunt down Xal’atath while being torn between her own nature and the maddening call of the Void to which she is attuned. Along this adventure she will have a unique rivalry with Xal’atath whose twists and turns will come to define the nature of this new conflict.

  20. #55920
    Is Arator that useless and weak of a character that his only purpose is to get kidnapped by Xal'atath so that Alleria has a justification to give into the whispers?

    I can see that happening.

    But I would laugh at how pathetic and useless of a character Arator is, if his only contribution to the story in 20 years will be to get kidnapped by a knife so that his mother can become a villain.

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