Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[huth]

Actually, the VERY fast turnaround (during development of an active expansion) on old world dragon racing makes me think were already fucking around with Kalimdor and EK. What do we think about that?

I wonder how much effort is actually needed to make it work. It might not be all that hard to do, compared to making them accessible for flying which basically required a full terrain rebuild.

[Fahrad Wagner]

...There wouldn't be stuff like that where the Anduin Lothar and Grom fight is...? That seems unlikely

It would make a lot of sense if it was there indeed, haven't seen any on the screenshots so far, I hope we'll get to see more soon! Although it's strange that such assets would be developed so early on for that patch. I'd rather inhale a bit of copium and think those assets were designed for the World Revamp and then reused for that patch; but as it turns out, we get to see the patch first! *inhales WR copium*

[Cheezits]

...There wouldn't be stuff like that where the Anduin Lothar and Grom fight is...? That seems unlikely

Yeah it's at that part, but why bother with a new version at all? Just suspicious.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Yeah it's at that part, but why bother with a new version at all? Just suspicious.

I agree, really they could have used the Garrison assets...

[Loreguy126]

What if 10.2 is an infinite related patch? I think that would be dumb. Gimme the Dream and Elune!!!

I feel NOT giving the Infinite Dragonflight a full patch would be a *bad decision* — please dream lords/Green Dragonflight and Ysera fanbois — that stuff can be its own patch too! Even a .5… sorry not sorry

[Fahrad Wagner]

They could be ported and modified. I personally think the Order Realm is next, or the backside of Azeroth, but a world revamp doesn't seem too far out the loop.

My money is on backside of Azeroth / Avaloren, but a WR would be absolutely fantastic!

[Kiivar86]

"Garrison Hearthstone and Dalaran Hearthstone are now toys."

This is huge, actually.

I admit I'm a bit sad by that as I have my main backpack set up just so and those hearthstones take up a place that I like. Please my mind goblins. Ah well, I'll deal.

I like the mage changes but I'll have to see how it plays out. Rune of Power is actually gone, amazing.

Also I see my wondering if the whole "grand prix" thing was just an instanced version or something went out the window, haha. Happy for that.

Juggernaut Perfected mount, guessing that's a version of the iron juggernaut mount?

[Marlamin]

There's a brand new version of the WoD harrison model in the raid, so there's the revamp copium.

Not brand new, same model/file.

EDIT: Maybe not, am blind.

[Throren]

Not brand new, same model/file.

It's a little different though, visually



The towers are both taller by an extra segment, have extra side windows, do not have lion faces at the top, no banners and most notable, is the open tower tops

[Marlamin]

It's a little different though, visually



The towers are both taller by an extra segment, have extra side windows, do not have lion faces at the top, no banners and most notable, is the open tower tops

I believe you're just looking at a different variation of it that's already been used elsewhere (not garrisons I guess). No new human building WMOs were added in 10.1.5, at least.

[huth]

The problem with dragonriding is that it is extremely limited to dragons themselves and a few winged creatures using gravity. I like this system but in what world would it work with all the flying mounts in the game?
I mean...I love my bee and moth mount, how am I supposed to fly with it if a dragon is much faster? That would mean that, I don't know, 70-80% (number at random) of the mounts in the collection would be totally useless. I have no idea if they have any plans to fix this, but it's really frustrating to watch them wade through their mistakes by releasing systems that aren't thought to work as a whole.
It is not at all designed to work with all mounts in the game and yet we are heading towards a world where it will be available outside of the Dragon Islands.

It's almost entirely a matter of how much they want to invest into animations. It wouldn't be very hard to make every single mount work with the system; some would just look rather silly while doing it. There's no technical reason why they couldn't let you Dragonride while bodysurfing on Ragnaros; he'd just look rather stiff since he doesn't have the necessary animations. But it would still work.

[Throren]

Weird cause I've never seen that version of the building anywhere (and having mucked around on certain 'building' private servers I know that building isnt in the BFA game files.

Maybe the pics of the dungeon are taken from a different build that went live and those wmo's just arent in it yet?

[Marlamin]

Weird cause I've never seen that version of the building anywhere (and having mucked around on certain 'building' private servers I know that building isnt in the BFA game files.

Maybe the pics of the dungeon are taken from a different build that went live and those wmo's just arent in it yet?

That's likely, yeah. Don't think I've seen the map yet.

[Scyth]

Wonder if we'd be able to get Iridikron as a mount skin from the mega-dungeon as well.

[Houle]

Wonder if we'd be able to get Iridikron as a mount skin from the mega-dungeon as well.

Screw Iridikron, what about a Galakrond mount skin

[Scyth]

Screw Iridikron, what about a Galakrond mount skin

I did not think about that lol Wouldn't be against that one either tbh but only if it's as big as the real thing!

[Cheezits]

Looks like the new Warlock quest involves new Warlock race recruits that explain their reasoning for joining, including a Lightforged.

https://twitter.com/Gurzog/status/1656813130276585473

[huth]

It just doesn't make sense. And it can't work with flying machines, insects, and magical creatures.
Unless it is strictly limited to an event outside the islands for a certain period, I do not see this system working.

You're confusing "working" with "looking good". You could replace the model with pretty much any other model in the game and it would still work. It'd just look stupid.
You're also way overestimating how many of those mounts there are. That's a pretty small fraction.

The biggest issue with Dragonriding outside the Dragon Isles would be that the world wasn't build for that speed (e.g. assets need to be loaded at greater distance and earlier than when you can only go air swim speed), though how much of an issue that is depends on the design specifics and may not be all that hard to solve.
And they have to do the same work whether it is time limited or not, so they may as well do it permanently.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Looks like the new Warlock quest involves new Warlock race recruits that explain their reasoning for joining, including a Lightforged.

https://twitter.com/Gurzog/status/1656813130276585473

Well thats encouraging.

[Cheezits]

Well thats encouraging.

I think the Lightforged is actually the main character of the questline, so Blizz knew what they were doing there.