Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Are we expecting juicy cinematics and lore today with 10.2's launch?

Mayhaps, I would be surprised if anything major showed up this first week. Most of the big boy exciting ones are the next weeks with Fyrakks Defeat Cinematic and the aftermath.

Maybe something will turn up in 10.2.5 PTR.

We're getting an "In Development (Article)" for 10.2.5 and maybe thats' when we get the 2024 Roadmap or maybe it will be a "over the next year situation".

The First Year Roadmap was revealed on December 15, so it is totally possible they will reveal it this Thursday since its the last content update for the year until 2nd/8th Januarys' 10.2.5.

[Hugnomo]

Speaking of Primordial Trolls. I wonder if the Tarasek were meant to be those primordial trolls. They are vaguely saurid like Trolls seem to be, and they do just disappear off the face of the Dragon Isles once the Primalist threat is gone.

I think Tarasek were just created as a new, better justification for drakonid. The dragons transformed the Tarasek into drakonid to do the several jobs the dragons needed them for. I don't think there's any relation to the trolls.

The djaradin, however, I do believe may have been at some point idealized to be Primordial trolls.

[Lady Atia]

Imo most fun would be tropical Tel'Abim for 11.1 (breather from underground themes) and obviously some kind of Azeroth core in 11.2. Undermine is also a possibility (both Kezan and Tel'Abim are between Pandaria and Southern Kalimdor on maps).

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Tel'Abim will mostlikely be the setting of its own Expansion after the Worldsoul saga is done. I'm once again wondering why someone would want to turn expansion stuff into some shitty filler patch? We don't need a repeat of BfA ...

[micwini]

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Tel'Abim will mostlikely be the setting of its own Expansion after the Worldsoul saga is done. I'm once again wondering why someone would want to turn expansion stuff into some shitty filler patch? We don't need a repeat of BfA ...

Idk. Tel abim doesnt sound like an expansion continent to me.

[Foolicious]

Are we expecting juicy cinematics and lore today with 10.2's launch?

Other than Fyrakk defeat cinematic not really. The blessing of the aspects seems to be the last campaign chapter and the one before is timegated. Tyrs questline is timegated, so nothing to see there. Vyranoth has a cutscene with odyn. But again. Timegated till next week.

[Nymrohd]

I think Tarasek were just created as a new, better justification for drakonid. The dragons transformed the Tarasek into drakonid to do the several jobs the dragons needed them for. I don't think there's any relation to the trolls.

The djaradin, however, I do believe may have been at some point idealized to be Primordial trolls.

Ofc we only find that out in the book.

[Paula Deen]

Ofc we only find that out in the book.

They only said major developments wouldn't happen in the books. To justify the existence of the books we gotta have some kind of thing in there.

[Lady Atia]

Idk. Tel abim doesnt sound like an expansion continent to me.

There is literally no difference between it and lets say Pandaria, Kul Tiras, the Dragon Isles and Zandalar prior to their propper introduction. Khaz Algar is also just some island next to Pandaria after all.

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Ofc we only find that out in the book.

Tbf, the book also mentions primal humanoids which are implied to be the primal trolls originally teased by Blizzard. We know the book was supposed to come out a year earlier, so it's pretty clear imo that the "primal trolls" were simply cut, instead of lets say turned into the Tarasek or Djaradin.

[Chickat]

That could be, but if they're so 'committed' to that cadence, why wouldn't they have had an extra few weeks of the patches they had already released to make it all perfectly fit?

Makes no sense to blast content out and then have a drought at the end. They said they wouldn't be doing that anymore.
Unless they lied, which of course they never do... /s

3 or 4 months between the final patch and prepatch hardly constitutes a drought imo.

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The way TWW is currently set up really feels like a one new zone/raid expansion.

We help the Earthen/Arathi/rebel Nerubians, the pathway to the core opens, we go to the core where Xal probably went. End.

They said future expansions are planned to have the same cadence and levels of content that Dragonflight does. With a huge team split into 3. Imo what that means is DF but 6 months shorter and no fated season.

So if df already worked like that tww would release in April.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Well they keep reiterating that the 8 week cadence is their standard definition of when to expect new content deliveries.

Holly reiterated that point which was first mentioned by the Gamespot interview and secondly Maria also confirmed it indicating it is a widespread understanding that the 8 week cadence is what they try to adhere to. Sometimes it becomes 9 instead of 8, but still a far cry from Shadowlands cadence.

Obviously when you do the math for that this happens (8 weeks, likely some would be 9 weeks here so add a week, it still adds up until we hit the Fall Window 2024 (September ->):

10.2.5 = January 2
10.2.7 = February 27
??? = April 23
Fated = July 16
Pre-Patch = September 10

As you can see if we add Fated as a Content Patch Update and Pre-Patch, we're still missing 1 more Content Delivery point.

Now obviously if you don't think Fated is a Content Patch Update (it was a Hot-fix last time) and are also skeptical on including Pre-patch then you have a real conundrum on your hand to figure out.

We probably learn the truth on Thursday.

[Reive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd47...orldofWarcraft

small trailer

Edit: this thread has been dead since the announcement. i guess many didn't really like it lol

[Cheezits]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd47...orldofWarcraft

small trailer

Edit: this thread has been dead since the announcement. i guess many didn't really like it lol

Not much to speculate on for 3 expansions.

[Reive]

Not much to speculate on for 3 expansions.

i mean it's not like we know what's really going to happen. also, there are still dragonflight patches

[Sondrelk]

Not much to speculate on for 3 expansions.

There is plenty to speculate. We just don't have any of it currently. Once the raid is open next week we will have more context to consider what the future patches will look like in terms of story, and in turn how the next expansion will look.

[Valysar]

Just saw the trailer, what's going on for every major NPC joining us in the ED?

There is Velen, Turalyon, Mekkanivelle, Thrall, Moira, Jaina, Rexxar, Thalyssra, Lor'themar, Baine, Mayla Highmountain, Khadgar etc

Is the retirement home closed or what ?

[Throren]

Just saw the trailer, what's going on for every major NPC joining us in the ED?

There is Velen, Turalyon, Mekkanivelle, Thrall, Moira, Jaina, Rexxar, Thalyssra, Lor'themar, Baine, Mayla Highmountain, Khadgar etc

Is the retirement home closed or what ?

I'm assuming they are coming to, ya know, help save the world. We can probably use any reinforcements we can get

[huth]

There is plenty to speculate. We just don't have any of it currently. Once the raid is open next week we will have more context to consider what the future patches will look like in terms of story, and in turn how the next expansion will look.

Yeah, this is just a temporary lull. Things will pick up as we approach alpha and beta.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Just saw the trailer, what's going on for every major NPC joining us in the ED?

There is Velen, Turalyon, Mekkanivelle, Thrall, Moira, Jaina, Rexxar, Thalyssra, Lor'themar, Baine, Mayla Highmountain, Khadgar etc

Is the retirement home closed or what ?

I mean, the lack of important characters participating has been a recurring feedback point that people wanted changes to.

Also its kind of important to remember that both the Horde and Alliance have reasons to defend the tree and help the Night Elves deal with the assault on Amirdrassil.

(Also remember there has been a timeskip putting even more importance on everyone being there to help the Night Elves after the events of Teldrassil.)

[Darkarath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd47...orldofWarcraft

small trailer

Edit: this thread has been dead since the announcement. i guess many didn't really like it lol

Yeah, I find it weird too. As I said before, this is probably only going to get worse as time goes on, because I do not think that TWW is coming before October 2024, and we only have 10.2.5 and 10.2.7 until then, right?

I am more positive about 11.0 now, just for Warbands and presumably Delves, I think that I will have a great time.

But regarding DF... 10.2.5 and 10.2.7 better have some really nice features or WoW is going to get a massive hit at its playerbase in the coming months.

My most wanted feature is a Timewalking (kind of) revamp. I just do not see players staying just for a few quests and presumably a new Brawler's Guild that everyone will finish pretty quickly.

[Marlamin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd47...orldofWarcraft

small trailer

Edit: this thread has been dead since the announcement. i guess many didn't really like it lol

This happens basically every hype season post-announcement, especially if the thread gets hidden on a forum that isn't on the frontpage.