Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Cheezits]

Yeah, I find it weird too. As I said before, this is probably only going to get worse as time goes on, because I do not think that TWW is coming before October 2024, and we only have 10.2.5 and 10.2.7 until then, right?

I am more positive about 11.0 now, just for Warbands and presumably Delves, I think that I will have a great time.

But regarding DF... 10.2.5 and 10.2.7 better have some really nice features or WoW is going to get a massive hit at its playerbase in the coming months.

My most wanted feature is a Timewalking (kind of) revamp. I just do not see players staying just for a few quests and presumably a new Brawler's Guild that everyone will finish pretty quickly.

Brawlers Guild might have a pretty meaty launch, considering it is apparently supposed to be evergreen and something that is added to overtime. Think the Trading Post launch.

And yeah I noticed that this thread is hidden from the Front Page list.

[Reive]

Yeah, I find it weird too. As I said before, this is probably only going to get worse as time goes on, because I do not think that TWW is coming before October 2024, and we only have 10.2.5 and 10.2.7 until then, right?

I am more positive about 11.0 now, just for Warbands and presumably Delves, I think that I will have a great time.

But regarding DF... 10.2.5 and 10.2.7 better have some really nice features or WoW is going to get a massive hit at its playerbase in the coming months.

My most wanted feature is a Timewalking (kind of) revamp. I just do not see players staying just for a few quests and presumably a new Brawler's Guild that everyone will finish pretty quickly.

I think many expected something more in terms of features from the announcement (myself included). Delves are nice but there isn't much more tbh.

This happens basically every hype season post-announcement, especially if the thread gets hidden on a forum that isn't on the frontpage.

really? seems weird tbh. you'd think a cool announcement would encourage people to speculate more. i think tww is just midnight's waiting room ahah

[Valysar]

[url]Edit: this thread has been dead since the announcement. i guess many didn't really like it lol

It'll revive in March+ when Alpha will be up

[Cheezits]

I think they definitely intended for some fans to go "yeah no I'm not playing until Midnight/TLT" and that's fine. They understand some themes aren't for everyone, and would rather be upfront instead of mystery box/hype culture that can lead to disappointment.

There's a good bunch of people that won't play until revamped Quel'thalas and that's fine. You aren't supposed to play every day or every expansion if you don't want to. But I think a lot of people will be more willing to try out expansions they don't love as much if they know it's building up to something they are looking forward to.

And we may really get yearly/year and a half expansions anyway.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I think people will be surprised on Thursday and we get some more activity back then. I definitely think TWW is just harder to be excited for because the "Oh hi Xal'atath" and Light fragment in Hallowsfall while it has potential is again just a vehicle for Midnight which we know is going to be a banger based on the hypothetical events of it (Same with TLT).

TWW just feels like we stumble upon Xal'atath and then waltzes off to Sunwell after but I feel that there is more to what will happen in TWW than just that but its hard to speculate on it because it is very unclear what else is in store.

[Valysar]

https://twitter.com/Aernath/status/1721786772181369176

Ahem, coincidence ? Don't think

[Raetary]

you'd think a cool announcement would encourage people to speculate more.

It does though.

It just isn't happening in here because people are now branching out into other threads.
Like it always happens.

The speculation thread did its purpose, now we wait until the next patch for datamining or later for alpha datamining.

[Cheezits]

https://twitter.com/Aernath/status/1721786772181369176

Ahem, coincidence ? Don't think

I called that shit. Looks like it popped off on Reddit.

We will find out in Uldaz/the Core that they put a titan prison bubble around Azeroth's world soul so she would be force-fed Order.

[Reive]

I think they definitely intended for some fans to go "yeah no I'm not playing until Midnight/TLT" and that's fine. They understand some themes aren't for everyone, and would rather be upfront instead of mystery box/hype culture that can lead to disappointment.

There's a good bunch of people that won't play until revamped Quel'thalas and that's fine. You aren't supposed to play every day or every expansion if you don't want to. But I think a lot of people will be more willing to try out expansions they don't love as much if they know it's building up to something they are looking forward to.

And we may really get yearly/year and a half expansions anyway.

i think the theme is fine. the zones also. but man, the content feels stale as fuck. as i said, the delves are fine, but the next expansion is again light of features. the allied race is boring and the warbands aren't exactly new content

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It'll revive in March+ when Alpha will be up

hope so

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Btw, another gem from danuser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpGy...hannel=Wowhead

[Xilurm]

If they branch out to movies or tv series I REALLY hope they don't give it to some random screenwriter that only works on it because of brand association and it's actually someone competent from INSIDE Blizzard that wants to make it.

[Raetary]

Oof, this looks rough. I don't see the point of these mediocre in-game cutscenes.

A yes, Fyrakks final form: The Placeholder Cube.

[Cheezits]

Oof, this looks rough. I don't see the point of these mediocre in-game cutscenes.

I actually like this a lot, but that shitty Genn model made me laugh. Don't they have a better one?

[Reive]

Oof, this looks rough. I don't see the point of these mediocre in-game cutscenes.

that was pure cringe lmao

those who made this cutscene should never make another one

[Chickat]

This happens basically every hype season post-announcement, especially if the thread gets hidden on a forum that isn't on the frontpage.

It will pick up steam even faster than Blizzcon around alpha time.

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TWW was well recieved. It cinematic has been viewed nearly 65% as much as Dragonflight in only 4 days, meanwhile Dragonflight cinematic has been out for 19 months.

It will almost surely sell more than DF did.

Also their upvote/downvote ratio are wildly different.

DF is sitting at about a 55% approval ratio. TWW is sitting at 89%

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i think tww is just midnight's waiting room ahah

Thats probably true. I think Midnight and The last Titan will be a lot more popular. People love the void and Quel'thalas. They also LOVE Northrend. I wouldn't be surprised if TLT brings subs back to Legionish numbers for a while on hype alone. Of course we will probably never get player counts or engagement metrics again.

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I think they definitely intended for some fans to go "yeah no I'm not playing until Midnight/TLT" and that's fine. They understand some themes aren't for everyone, and would rather be upfront instead of mystery box/hype culture that can lead to disappointment.

There's a good bunch of people that won't play until revamped Quel'thalas and that's fine. You aren't supposed to play every day or every expansion if you don't want to. But I think a lot of people will be more willing to try out expansions they don't love as much if they know it's building up to something they are looking forward to.

And we may really get yearly/year and a half expansions anyway.

Thats true. I look at TWW as a super Hero origin movie. People groan at them at this point even though they usually have some interesting stuff in them. What people are wanting is the cool stuff and later films. Thats whats coming in MN and TLT.

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https://twitter.com/Aernath/status/1721786772181369176

Ahem, coincidence ? Don't think

So they put Azeroth in a stasis? Either to protect her or to keep her contained for some reason?

[Reive]

Thats probably true. I think Midnight and The last Titan will be a lot more popular. People love the void and Quel'thalas. They also LOVE Northrend. I wouldn't be surprised if TLT brings subs back to Legionish numbers for a while on hype alone. Of course we will probably never get player counts or engagement metrics again

from the interviews seems like they're saving many things for midnight while tww was already work in progress and is just a stepping stone.

[Varodoc]

It will pick up steam even faster than Blizzcon around alpha time.

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TWW was well recieved. It cinematic has been viewed nearly 65% as much as Dragonflight in only 4 days, meanwhile Dragonflight cinematic has been out for 19 months.

It will almost surely sell more than DF did.

Also their upvote/downvote ratio are wildly different.

DF is sitting at about a 55% approval ratio. TWW is sitting at 89%

TWW is riding on the coattails of Midnight and TLT.

Most people will buy TWW because they want to see the set-up for Midnight and TLT, which are the expansions that generate actual hype.

Look Online, the vast majority of people are hyped for Midnight and TLT, not for TWW.

Announcing all three expansions at the same time is a strategic move to reassure people that TWW isn't filler and will connect to two climactic expansions.

[milkmustache]

from the interviews seems like they're saving many things for midnight while tww was already work in progress and is just a stepping stone.

There was a big implication from Holly Longdale that there are some new game features that they're really, really excited about coming down the line. This is a really exciting few years for WoW fans.

[Cheezits]

There was a big implication from Holly Longdale that there are some new game features that they're really, really excited about coming down the line. This is a really exciting few years for WoW fans.

Either Holly is a big Naga/Ethereal fan or she is talking about Housing. No idea what else it could be.

[Darkarath]

Oof, this looks rough. I don't see the point of these mediocre in-game cutscenes.

Well, it was good until Alexstrasza's allies appeared. How long will we have to wait to have another Gul'dan killing someone important?

If Fyrakk crashed Alexstrasza's skull this cinematic would be the best one ever.

[Xilurm]

Well, it was good until Alexstrasza's allies appeared. How long will we have to wait to have another Gul'dan killing someone important?

Hopefully not too soon. Don't get people's obsession with wanting characters to die. It's just a lame excuse to not have to write them in the story anymore. Varian's death was nothing but bad.