Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Cheezits]

One-patch unlocks for Shaman/Druid/Paladin are a bad thing for anyone who cares about their totems, forms and charger mounts being unique.

Id you don't care about those, it's whatever, but they are 100% getting homogenized otherwise.

[Paula Deen]

One-patch unlocks for Shaman/Druid/Paladin are a bad thing for anyone who cares about their totems, forms and charger mounts being unique.

Id you don't care about those, it's whatever, but they are 100% getting homogenized otherwise.

Honestly Shaman Totems need to be going the way of the Druid Forms and Warlock Pets. Its time. My Wildhammer Totems look like trash compared to the Dark Iron ones.

[Marlamin]

Now do one with the Jailer in the place of the Tuskarr and call it Wrath of the Bolvar. Drop it on an alt account with zero posts as well. Name the account Nimalram

The perfect plan... they'll never know.

[Cheezits]

Honestly Shaman Totems need to be going the way of the Druid Forms and Warlock Pets. Its time. My Wildhammer Totems look like trash compared to the Dark Iron ones.

Yeah but they didn't unlock the racial druid forms for everyone. Race fantasy is dead if they homogenize everything, you'll just get Super Fire Totem etc.

[Treegdar]

Y'all are waaay too stuck on thinking Horde vs Alliance. Not only have the systems of the game been moving away from that with cross faction grouping and cross faction guilds. But the story is pretty clearly moving away from that, at least for now. It was also heavily criticized in BFA since we literally always end up joining forces to beat the big bad anyway and that was like the third time just in wow they've done that story. Midnight is supposed to be as close as the void gets to victory on Azeroth, but you really think theyll hesitate to make Silvermoon the neutral Capital when its under assault by a third party? Like they hesitated with Dalaran? Lor'themar was also one of the driving forces in getting the Alliance and Horde to work together again during BFA anyway. If it means saving the Sunwell or even all of Azeroth with the stakes they set at Blizzcon, the blood elves wouldn't hesitate to let the Alliance hang with them while they fight the void. Story wise it doesn't even have to mean it becomes a purely neutral city accepting of everyone anyway once Midnight is over with.

[Ersula]

Amirdrissal in the Plains because accessing a zone in a Dragonflight expac via portal is dumb.
Epilogue Questline
Tyr and the Gang fight Alexstraza
Vyranoth still bad

Amirdrassil was planted in the Dragon Isles: It's 100% going to appear where the zone portal is. Then I expect it to share its space with Quelthalas & Lordaeron when Midnight comes out, if it being in the rest of the world is even a priority: It's essentially just an RP zone. It's never going to be a real hub.

Probably because they take some major client changes to pull off. It may not seem like much to you, but it's likely not that easy on the technical side.

That's suddenly too much to do in a x.x.x patch? 11.0 is a year away. I'm expecting 2 pretty beefy minor patches at the very least.

[Cheezits]

Amirdrassil was planted in the Dragon Isles: It's 100% going to appear where the zone portal is. Then I expect it to share its space with Quelthalas & Lordaeron when Midnight comes out, if it being in the rest of the world is even a priority: It's essentially just an RP zone. It's never going to be a real hub.

Unless that's part of 10.2.5 content. Why bother with hiding spoilers if the tree appearing isn't a big deal?

It could be a mini zone like Forbidden Reach.

[Ersula]

Yeah but they didn't unlock the racial druid forms for everyone. Race fantasy is dead if they homogenize everything, you'll just get Super Fire Totem etc.

I do wish they were more focused on race identity than class identity, because ironically they're basically opposite things. So much so that they actually removed Demon pet forms? Did anyone want that? Those Heroic Talent trees sound so homogenous. And giving Druid 4 options while giving Demon Hunters 2 feels like trolling.

One-patch unlocks for Shaman/Druid/Paladin are a bad thing for anyone who cares about their totems, forms and charger mounts being unique.

Id you don't care about those, it's whatever, but they are 100% getting homogenized otherwise.

I know they've been putting it off a really long time, but is developing a few models really take that long? They add dozens of those every patch.

[Paula Deen]

Yeah but they didn't unlock the racial druid forms for everyone. Race fantasy is dead if they homogenize everything, you'll just get Super Fire Totem etc.

Im fine with them updating Racial Totems (Defaults) then giving us alot of options to pick from in a menu. Honestly its pathetic that I cannot tell what my totems are supposed to be as a Wildhammer.

[Marlamin]

Unless that's part of 10.2.5 content. Why bother with hiding spoilers if the tree appearing isn't a big deal?

It could be a mini zone like Forbidden Reach.

I think Amirdrassil is going to be a part of future DF content and beyond regardless, without going into spoilers for still unavailable campaign chapters, they are definitely setting it up as a major point of interest going forward.

[Well Done Steak]

One-patch unlocks for Shaman/Druid/Paladin are a bad thing for anyone who cares about their totems, forms and charger mounts being unique.

Id you don't care about those, it's whatever, but they are 100% getting homogenized otherwise.

If, BIG IF, that happened I'm sure it'd only be temporary and they'd gradually release the new mounts and.totems.

I'd be fine with a universal paladin charger that all races share as long as all races eventually have their own as well.

Same.thing with totems, could even be a barber options to switch between racial and shared totems.

[Ersula]

I think Amirdrassil is going to be a part of future DF content and beyond regardless, without going into spoilers for still unavailable campaign chapters, they are definitely setting it up as a major point of interest going forward.

That could make people happy. If they could somehow turn flying over the water into a hidden loading screen it would make sense for Amirdrassil to be 12.0's hub & the islands ranging between Suramar, Silvermoon & the Sunwell being full island nation of Quelthalas.

[Pheraz]

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Shadowlands had a lot of problems but at least the ending was an ending. It had a definitive conclusion. There's a decent chance we're going to go 4 expansions without a proper climax.

100% agree. SL had a very questionable theme and travel ideas and system horror in the first two patches but even if I was annoyed by sylvanas pretending to play 5d chess I actually really wanted to know what happens next. dF story is so incredibly boring and weird and scattered and friendship is magic that I totally lost interest in "the end". Fyrakk is okay. But that's it.

[Cheezits]

I think Amirdrassil is going to be a part of future DF content and beyond regardless, without going into spoilers for still unavailable campaign chapters, they are definitely setting it up as a major point of interest going forward.

Its fairly obvious what's going to happen with the tree Imo, just opening up the world map in current content, but I'm curious about how the tree will be used or what shape it will take on versus its appearance in the dream.

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That could make people happy. If they could somehow turn flying over the water into a hidden loading screen it would make sense for Amirdrassil to be 12.0's hub & the islands ranging between Suramar, Silvermoon & the Sunwell being full island nation of Quelthalas.

Yeah no, I'm sure they will tie the Nelves into Midnight somehow but Amirdrassil wouldn't be part of the Quelthalas zone because it's too far away.

[Well Done Steak]

You know what bugs me?

So once the tree blooms we're going to have two copies like we do with dalaran?

Unless lore wise, amirdrassil will have a dream projection after it blooms? Isn't that the case for the other world trees too?

[Marlamin]

That could make people happy. If they could somehow turn flying over the water into a hidden loading screen it would make sense for Amirdrassil to be 12.0's hub & the islands ranging between Suramar, Silvermoon & the Sunwell being full island nation of Quelthalas.

They can just have it be a terrain phase for the Dragon Isles similar to how stabbed Silithus is a terrain phase for Kalimdor.

Its fairly obvious what's going to happen with the tree Imo, just opening up the world map in current content, but I'm curious about how the tree will be used or what shape it will take on versus its appearance in the dream.

Yeah, fair enough, but I try not be in the business of straight up spoiling shit anymore (Blizzard does a good enough job there already in 10.2....). I can't say I've looked in detail as to figure out if the tree changes appearance, that will remain to be seen.

[Marlamin]

Am I misremembering things, or did I read somewhere that once Amirdrassil pops into our world, the Ohn'ahran plains would be updated to be more like the Emerald Dream zone?

The version of Ohn'ahran in the Emerald Dream zone (or well, part of it) has had several updates to make it look like an untouched Emerald Dream version of it, I don't really expect that to transfer into the regular game world.

[Reive]

the only interesting thing this week was the 10.2.5 announcement and they removed it. boring boring boring

[Marlamin]

the only interesting thing this week was the 10.2.5 announcement and they removed it. boring boring boring

To be fair, the 10.2 deployment appears to have taken far more effort on their end than they had expected so 10.2.5 PTR might have just been pushed to next week due to that, maybe they'll mention it during the WoWCast tomorrow. I'm still keeping an eye out this week regardless, things do be brewing.

[Ersula]

Yeah no, I'm sure they will tie the Nelves into Midnight somehow but Amirdrassil wouldn't be part of the Quelthalas zone because it's too far away.

Is it? Technically Quel'thalas is built upon the remnants of the Highborne empire post-Sundering & that includes every island & ruin between the Sunwell & Suramar. And Amirdrassil is directly north of that whole region.

It's as if Quel'thalas is the Mediterranean & Amirdrassil is Rome.