Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Valysar]

BTW PTR realms are incompatible ?

[Murlocos]

BTW PTR realms are incompatible ?

It's been down for a couple hours now, probably pushing a new build in an hour or two.

[Marlamin]

BTW PTR realms are incompatible ?

They are not, 10.2.5 PTR is offline for a new build, the realms you are seeing as incompatible are the 10.2.0 PTR realms.

[Makabreska]

It's been down for a couple hours now, probably pushing a new build in an hour or two.

Can we mine it, though?

[Murlocos]

Can we mine it, though?

That's all we can do, since it looks like the realms are still broken with the new build. And this one is labeled a release candidate!

[Telogrus]

We know the Nerubian Queen is the final boss of TWW’s first raid tier, but who do you guys see being the final bosses of the other two raid tiers? Seems like there’s some Light fanatics in Hallowfall, so I’d like a Light-themed mid expansion raid. Would be a nice breather from all the Void-focused villains we’ll be getting. Seeing as how Xal’atath is called the “Harbinger”, it would make sense that she’s the final boss of TWW, leading into Midnight

[Viridiel]

We know the Nerubian Queen is the final boss of TWW’s first raid tier, but who do you guys see being the final bosses of the other two raid tiers? Seems like there’s some Light fanatics in Hallowfall, so I’d like a Light-themed mid expansion raid. Would be a nice breather from all the Void-focused villains we’ll be getting. Seeing as how Xal’atath is called the “Harbinger”, it would make sense that she’s the final boss of TWW, leading into Midnight

I think it's almost certain Xal'atath is the last boss, whether we actually kill her or not. For the other raid tier, I want a troll raid. We were promised primordial trolls for Dragonflight and we didn't get them and I'm still upset about it. Either that or a gnoll raid with the return of the Decatriarch... or both at the same time.

[Telogrus]

I think it's almost certain Xal'atath is the last boss, whether we actually kill her or not. For the other raid tier, I want a troll raid. We were promised primordial trolls for Dragonflight and we didn't get them and I'm still upset about it. Either that or a gnoll raid with the return of the Decatriarch... or both at the same time.

There could be a troll raid in Midnight.

Gnolls are too unserious of a threat. It would feel like filler

[Skildar]

We know the Nerubian Queen is the final boss of TWW’s first raid tier, but who do you guys see being the final bosses of the other two raid tiers? Seems like there’s some Light fanatics in Hallowfall, so I’d like a Light-themed mid expansion raid. Would be a nice breather from all the Void-focused villains we’ll be getting. Seeing as how Xal’atath is called the “Harbinger”, it would make sense that she’s the final boss of TWW, leading into Midnight

Iridikron could be the last boss. I doubt Xal'Atath would go down before Midnight though. They could very well pull an Argus and get us to fight a surprise boss like an avatar of the Old Gods or whatever.

[Lahis]

So 10.2.5 PTR has data for 1300 ilvl version of the Death Knight boost helm: https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...z8OzMiXnQ&s=19

Pretty reasonable stats like 1.8 million Str and 2.7 million Stamina.

Did some projections: assuming around 100 ilvl gap between expansions, and 4 seasons per expansion, 1300 would be around the maximum Mythic ilvl from The Last Titan Season 4. Calculations: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Easy to see why they are planning stat squish for Midnight.

[Scyth]

Iridikron could be the last boss. I doubt Xal'Atath would go down before Midnight though. They could very well pull an Argus and get us to fight a surprise boss like an avatar of the Old Gods or whatever.

Iridikron will last until The Last Titan, no chance he dies before the Titans come back imo.
But I also don’t think Xal will die in TWW, or rather I hope she doesn’t. I want to see more of her before we get rid of her, same for Iridikron tbh.

[Eldryth]

Iridikron could be the last boss. I doubt Xal'Atath would go down before Midnight though. They could very well pull an Argus and get us to fight a surprise boss like an avatar of the Old Gods or whatever.

Iridikron is probably getting saved for The Last Titan. His whole goal revolves around the Titans' return, as Scyth said, and his lair is Northrend (where TLT is set).

I'd be very surprised if Xal'atath isn't the final boss on TWW. Not so sure about if she'll survive that battle or not, but live or die, I expect that it'll end with her winning by bringing about the Hour of Twilight. Then Midnight will focus on Cosmic Void threats (ending with a battle against a Void Lord- probably Dimensius- but it could be an incomplete manifestation), and TLT will have Iridikron facing the Titans, ending with us fighting either Sargeras or Aman'Thul.

[huth]

So 10.2.5 PTR has data for 1300 ilvl version of the Death Knight boost helm: https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...z8OzMiXnQ&s=19

Pretty reasonable stats like 1.8 million Str and 2.7 million Stamina.

Did some projections: assuming around 100 ilvl gap between expansions, and 4 seasons per expansion, 1300 would be around the maximum Mythic ilvl from The Last Titan Season 4. Calculations: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Easy to see why they are planning stat squish for Midnight.

Those stats are probably just automatic scaling. So they are in fact perfectly reasonable. And i'm guessing somebody accidentally added an extra 0 to iLvl, since there's little practical use to that item.

[Tiwack]

I just want to know wtf Azerothian Archives are.

It’s the archaeology revamp we’re been promised and still miss

[Lady Atia]

There could be a troll raid in Midnight.

Gnolls are too unserious of a threat. It would feel like filler

Yeah, I feel they will expand Zul Aman into a whole zone with the Temple with the corpse of that one Old God Tentacleboy as the first raid.

[Alanar]

It’s the archaeology revamp we’re been promised and still miss

Not really, but has simalarities and overlaps.

[Skildar]

Iridikron will last until The Last Titan, no chance he dies before the Titans come back imo.
But I also don’t think Xal will die in TWW, or rather I hope she doesn’t. I want to see more of her before we get rid of her, same for Iridikron tbh.

I'm hoping for the same thing but I feel that the last titan will shift completely in terms of foe we need to face

[Cheezits]

I will be insanely surprised if the Amani aren't a helpful faction in 11.0 and potentially an AR as well. They will probably get a whole zone and hub to space out the Elf/Human theme of North Lordaeron.

The biggest wildcard is the the status of the Plaguelands and whether or not they will even be in the expansion.

[Varodoc]

Reminder that the Amani didn't lift a finger against Arthas and the Scourge because they wanted to see the Elves suffer, and they thought that was more important than stopping the tide of Death and corruption.

[Ersula]

Reminder that the Amani didn't lift a finger against Arthas and the Scourge because they wanted to see the Elves suffer, and they thought that was more important than stopping the tide of Death and corruption.

You mean an indigenous people didn't want to throw their bodies in front of the unstoppable force who's expressed goal was to destroy the civilization that was trying to push you off your land for 1000 years?

They had literally no reason to fight the scourge. You forget an "existential threat" is only obvious to the audience, not the people who are living inside this fantasy setting who lack an all-encompassing perspective.