Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nightmare Queen]

Fuck it, no more patches, only books. World of Warcraft tarot card deck and guidebook releasing this year as well, by Sonic the Hedgehog's lead writer. I don't think it'll have anything to do with TWW, but we're maybe seeing a preview of anniversary advertising.

Damn, really?
I love collecting Tarot cards, I may have to buy this lol

[ChairmanKaga]

I apologize for doing this but I don't think I can search back through this thread effectively.

On the 2024 road map months ago, there was a Skull and Crossbones/Pirate Logo thing without text explanation for sometime around now or coming up. What did that turn out to be?

I took a break for a few months and haven't been paying attention.

[doledippers]

I apologize for doing this but I don't think I can search back through this thread effectively.

On the 2024 road map months ago, there was a Skull and Crossbones/Pirate Logo thing without text explanation for sometime around now or coming up. What did that turn out to be?

I took a break for a few months and haven't been paying attention.

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com...ld-of-warcraft

tldr; theyre keeping it a secret, no ptr, will release in march, something experimental

[ChairmanKaga]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com...ld-of-warcraft

tldr; theyre keeping it a secret, no ptr, will release in march, something experimental

Ah, thank you.

[Enrif]

About the exploring azeroth books, we also seem to get a collection containing all of the exploring azeroth books in one place:

https://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraf.../dp/1956916555

[Lorgar Aurelian]

About the exploring azeroth books, we also seem to get a collection containing all of the exploring azeroth books in one place:

https://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraf.../dp/1956916555

As some one with the already released ones that seems like it would be an annoyingly thick book to put on a shelf.

[Enrif]

As some one with the already released ones that seems like it would be an annoyingly thick book to put on a shelf.

I guess it will be a slip case with the individual books inside it. Like those lord of the rings or Harry Potter collections

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I guess it will be a slip case with the individual books inside it. Like those lord of the rings or Harry Potter collections

That hadn't crossed my mind but it would make sense I suppose.

[Lady Atia]

It's like back in the months prior to BlizzCon right now, with no news or new content. So boring.

But once 10.2.6 and the alpha arrive, it'll be a nonstop stream of information all the way until release.

Only about 3 months to go before BlizzCon 2024 should be announced as well.

Yeah tbf, it's weird the choose to go silent right before the Alpha instead of after it. No one would have minded the "secret patch" once we had a juicy first TWW build to go through, but before that? Baffling joice, especially as we will have 10.2.6, Alpha and 10.2.7 right after each other with nothing for February ...

[Reive]

I really hope this secret patch is good otherwise they will (once again) prove themselves out of touch with their playerbase. can't go silent for months, teasing left and right only to deliver something lame

[Foolicious]

I really hope this secret patch is good otherwise they will (once again) prove themselves out of touch with their playerbase. can't go silent for months, teasing left and right only to deliver something lame

I really hope so too. It feels like they threw away their promise to work on hero talents asap for that patch so i hope its a good one.

[Woggmer]

Yeah tbf, it's weird the choose to go silent right before the Alpha instead of after it. No one would have minded the "secret patch" once we had a juicy first TWW build to go through, but before that? Baffling joice, especially as we will have 10.2.6, Alpha and 10.2.7 right after each other with nothing for February ...

Like I can understand that they don't want retail to overshadow stuff with Classic... but the only major thing is Season of Discovery, Hardcore isn't as interesting even if it was limited because it's just classic under a different coat of paint.

Even worse is that the Hearthstone 10th Anniversary event is happening at the tail end of February.

[Lady Atia]

Like I can understand that they don't want retail to overshadow stuff with Classic... but the only major thing is Season of Discovery, Hardcore isn't as interesting even if it was limited because it's just classic under a different coat of paint.

Even worse is that the Hearthstone 10th Anniversary event is happening at the tail end of February.

Actually, for WoW it's happening in March, so at the same time as the new patch haha.

[Woggmer]

Actually, for WoW it's happening in March, so at the same time as the new patch haha.

Unless they release a new set of Hero Talents for people examine, this may as well be a dead month for retail until March.

[Lady Atia]

Yeah I don't get how they don't realise that datamining is part of the content nowadays. You savour the new stuff online for a few weeks or months, then you play through it.

This idea of just having sudden patches drop on you out of nowhere for the surprise factor might sound good on paper, but in reality it's boring as heck.

The thing is, a surprise patch is good if you have something else to preview in the meantime, which would be the TWW alpha. And no, I don't consider anything "classic" to be worthwhile content as long as I cant copy my classic chars over to the real wow lol.

[Cheezits]

People's biggest complaints on hero talents, that they aren't class skins, are never going to be addressed because they clearly aren't doing class skins nor do they want to or are able to (most likely option, especially as they are doing multiple expansions at once and the art team will be stretched thin).

[fooliuscaesar13]

Yeah I don't get how they don't realise that datamining is part of the content nowadays. You savour the new stuff online for a few weeks or months, then you play through it.

This idea of just having sudden patches drop on you out of nowhere for the surprise factor might sound good on paper, but in reality it's boring as heck.

I get where you're coming from, but I'm of the opposite opinion. I love datamining, and as you said: you savor the new stuff for some time before release and then play it, but I feel like that has also ruined online gaming to a degree. I also feel like it has ruined the community a bit as well, because now we expect to be able to know what's coming next. Whether that's an evolution or devolution is up to debate.
For a lot of us, who browse this site and others, a good bit of what's next is often spoiled (spoiler tags or not) by these sites we love to browse and engage in. And while it is simple to just not view these sites, because of the nature of targeted advertising and suggestive topics by our devices/browsers...it's almost impossible to remain completely in the dark about something coming out that you're excited for.
For that reason, I like the idea of surprise patches and/or something completely hidden/encrypted. They're still building some hype with the mystery of "hey, here's something secretive coming up soon!", which is nice, and you know it's coming soon-ish.
My only worry, and it's possibly a worry of others as well, is the lack of PTR could create more bugs than usual making it to the live servers. That aside? I love the idea of surprise patches/hidden content. Gives me the nostalgic feeling of what WoW was like before everything was in your face and easily searched.

[Dracullus]

I really hope this secret patch is good otherwise they will (once again) prove themselves out of touch with their playerbase. can't go silent for months, teasing left and right only to deliver something lame

Something tells me you won't like it, but you will pretend you had high hopes and was dissapointed by Blizzard.

Something:

few month into DF

They don't care. Once the game stops being profitable, they will stop investing into it. It's already happening now in dragonflight. When compared to the start of the expansion, the quality of the content has gone down, devs are communicating less, fixes are happening less often and new patches are taking longer to come out. They probably didn't expect dragonflight to do so bad. They realized that a lot people just don't care about wow anymore.

10.1.7

this past week has been a doomfest. the new patch being bad has only made things worse.

Avaloren leak

hope it's fake otherwise this expansion is a skip

TWW reveal

avaloren was better. fuck underground slop

10.2

I'm not hearing good things about 10.2. bugs, lack of content, npcs missing voice acting etc. was it another low effort patch?

I mean hate something, love something, your choice. But why so many people are so determined to make clowns out of themselves?

[Reive]

I mean hate something, love something, your choice. But why so many people are so determined to make clowns out of themselves?

you're the only clown here for going through my post history to prove me wrong about something many here will probably agree with. It's not the first time the devs hype something only for it to be lame. haven't you learned anything from patch 10.2.5, 10.2, 10.1.7 (10.1.5 was good) and 10.1? they brag about their faster patch cadence but most of the "content" they release is shallow and uninspired (and buggy, but doesn't matter).

also, what you posted is no "gotcha!". I don't hide my distaste for dragonflight and the war within. the former was a wasted opportunity in so many ways and the latter has this "more of the same" feeling to it. can't talk about the story (don't expect much with people like anne stickney writing it), but the features are also lacking.

warbands? qol
hero talents? talents with a different name
earthen dwarves? who asked for them?
delves? we don't know enough about them

It's getting hard to give a shit about this game. "why don't you quit then?" i still enjoy things like pvp and m+, but even those are getting stale

[Cheezits]

I mean they already laid out TWW and how it has no new gameplay features besides delves (new talents are not a new feature). They may be hiding some AR reveals like the Nerubians (we will probably get multiple races, why else bring back ARs as a title) but otherwise, if you don't think it's enough, why bother playing? They aren't going to ADD to it and especially not now with the dual-development going on.

The good thing about being this transparent up front is that you don't have to be disappointed for longer than the reveal. Midnight should be happening a little faster than usual for a next expansion so why not check back then?