Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Teriz]

And wasn't it Gallywix that had a piece of inactive azerite from Kezan?

Yeah, it's on the top of his staff.

Maybe Kaja'mite is a mix of Azerite and Old God blood?

[Enrif]

Yeah, it's on the top of his staff.

Maybe Kaja'mite is a mix of Azerite and Old God blood?

Maybe that. The properties of kaja'mite are seemingly a way lesser version of what azerite does to a person. And we got 4 accounts of that:
According to Sylvanas: Frighteningly brilliant and creative thoughts raced through her brain.
According to Anduin: His mind raced with strategies to ensure a lasting peace benefiting every being on Azeroth.
According to Grizzek Fizzwrench: His mind raced uncontrollably, analyzing and calculating the exact details of his hand's contact with the Azerite and what uses the mineral could have.
According to Sapphronetta Flivvers: Her mind was immediately filled with ideas on how to improve Feathers if only she had access to the right tools. Although her brain was "on fire", it was calm and not frantic.

Reminds me a lot about Kaja'mite, but in a more extreme version.

[Makorus]

10.2.7 is called Dark Heart because the artifact that Xalatath uses is called the Dark Heart.

[Varodoc]

10.2.7 is called Dark Heart because the artifact that Xalatath uses is called the Dark Heart.

A very boring answer.

[Enrif]

Leaving out other properties of Azerite, though. For example its destructive properties displayed on Kul Tiras.

Yes. Probably because it is a corrupted version, that is severely weakend.

On the other hand, Goblins are known for their explosive technology. Perhaps it used to be Kaja'mite powered before it got so rare.

Edit:
Now here comes a theory:
Azerite appeared when a titan hit Azeroth dealing it a massive wound.
The last time a Titan caused a massive wound, was when Aman'thul ripped out Y'shaarj. Perhaps, this event, similar in destruction caused azerite to appear, but because the corruption of the old god rained down, it changed the Azerite into Kaja'mite.

[Nathanyel]

I mean, there must've been some reason Deathwing visited that volcano and caused it to erupt.

[Enrif]

But why is Kaja'mite most commonly found underneath the volcano on Kezan?

The volcano has presumably been there at least since the primordial age when the elementals waged war on each other and caused the land to constantly change. I don't think the Sundering would have caused a volcano.

Did the Kaja'mite flow out from the planet's core with the magma?

Were the magma tunnels once home to a part of Y'shaarj?

Unknowns, and we can not tell. Perhaps the titans or their titanforged tried to burry that strange green mineral. This could be part of a potential undermine zone/megadungeon/raid to explore.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I mean, there must've been some reason Deathwing visited that volcano and caused it to erupt.

That’s pretty much been changed to Azeroth her self setting it off and it was actually started before the cataclysm proper because the goblins dug up some Azerite.

[Varodoc]

It wouldn't be surprising if Kosak's Lore team back in the early 2010s had plans to tie Kaja'mite to Y'Shaarj, plans that were never finalized.

The biggest indicator that the two might be related is the colour. Green is not just the colour of Kaja'mite and Fel/Demons, but also of Y'Shaarj:





That shade of green is close enough:





And on a related note, I have also seen people in the past who speculated that Y'Shaarj had some dealings with Fel/Demons, due to his colour.

Still, even though you can make the argument that Kosak's Team in the early 2010s might have had unfinished plans to tie Kaja'mite in Cataclysm to Y'Shaarj in MoP, those plans were clearly never finalized. It's now been over 10 years since Y'Shaarj and Kaja'mite were last relevant. Unless the New lore team helmed by Metzen intentionally goes back to dig up old lore from a decade ago (not impossible), any connection between Y'Shaarj and Kaja'mite can be safely thrown in the dusty storage room of dropped plotlines.

[THEORACLE64]

Nobbel thinks Teldrassil genocide was a cool moment in wow, what is going on lol.

I'm not sure why people listen/are interested in that knobbel-head honestly.

[Lady Atia]

It wouldn't be surprising if Kosak's Lore team back in the early 2010s had plans to tie Kaja'mite to Y'Shaarj, plans that were never finalized.

The biggest indicator that the two might be related is the colour. Green is not just the colour of Kaja'mite and Fel/Demons, but also of Y'Shaarj:





That shade of green is close enough:





And on a related note, I have also seen people in the past who speculated that Y'Shaarj had some dealings with Fel/Demons, due to his colour.

Still, even though you can make the argument that Kosak's Team in the early 2010s might have had unfinished plans to tie Kaja'mite in Cataclysm to Y'Shaarj in MoP, those plans were clearly never finalized. It's now been over 10 years since Y'Shaarj and Kaja'mite were last relevant. Unless the New lore team helmed by Metzen intentionally goes back to dig up old lore from a decade ago (not impossible), any connection between Y'Shaarj and Kaja'mite can be safely thrown in the dusty storage room of dropped plotlines.

Shouldn't we be able to find it on Pandaria though, if it's the blood of Y'Shaarj?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Shouldn't we be able to find it on Pandaria though, if it's the blood of Y'Shaarj?

Ya like we had the heart pumping blood which didn’t match at all.

[Varodoc]

IIRC, Y'Shaarj didn't die specifically on Pandaria. But Ra found his remains nearby on his way to Uldum (it probably fell there). So he took a left turn and left the heart underneath Pandaria, with his mogu intended to watch over it, before he continued on to Uldum.

This.

Y'Shaarj was not located in Pandaria. His seat of power was at the centre of the world, in the future Well of Eternity/Zin-Azshari/Maelstrom. Pandaria is just the place where his remains happened to fall from the sky after Aman'thul killed him.

Kaja'mite only appears in places that are closely associated to the Maelstrom. Kezan and Lost Isles are located near the Maelstrom, and In-game are actually labelled as part of the "Maelstrom continent". Kaja'mite also appears in Zandalar, which is located close to Nazjatar and the Ruins of Zin-Azshari (where Y'Shaarj lived before Well of Eternity/Zin-Azshari).

[Lorgar Aurelian]

IIRC, Y'Shaarj didn't die specifically on Pandaria. But Ra found his remains nearby on his way to Uldum (it probably fell there). So he took a left turn and left the heart underneath Pandaria, with his mogu intended to watch over it, before he continued on to Uldum.

He would have died at zin azshari as that’s where his body was ripped from resulting in the well.

Which if you wanted to stretch you could say that’s why Kaja'mite is by that goblin island at sea, but that doesn’t make any sense when none is found at ZA or any of the other near by islands.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

There was a quarry on Zandalar, I think.

Ah I must have missed that, still though none in Zin Azshari or KT which is closer to where the well was makes it seem pretty unlikely that they are related.

[Enrif]

Ah I must have missed that, still though none in Zin Azshari or KT which is closer to where the well was makes it seem pretty unlikely that they are related.

Kul Tiras used to be way further to the east, not as close as it is today. The cataclysm moved it so far to the west. As for Zin Azshari, we only got a very small piece of it, with the rest still under the water. There could be stuff, but probably not added to a patch zone as it wasn't the focus on it. Did Nazjatar even had Azerite? I don't think so, right?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Kul Tiras used to be way further to the east, not as close as it is today. The cataclysm moved it so far to the west. As for Zin Azshari, we only got a very small piece of it, with the rest still under the water. There could be stuff, but probably not added to a patch zone as it wasn't the focus on it. Did Nazjatar even had Azerite? I don't think so, right?

Your right, though looking at chronicles maps, BI should atleast have it to given proximity.



As for Zin if they were trying to set that up having the Gilblins have some would be an obvious way to do it, don’t remember if they had azerite, though if they did they would likely use it given that it’s power is what freed N’zoth.

[milkmustache]

I wonder if all of this then if there's a potential consequence of Goblins using void magic at some point. If kaja'mite is theoretically the blood of Y'shaarj, would the empowerment from void energies of a kaja'mite influenced race like goblins create some sort of far more eldritch evil of them?

Ethereals are just void empowered goblins /s

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Picture this:

Elun'Ahir stands tall in the middle of Ancient Kalimdor.

Underneath it, Y'shaarj is gnawing at its roots, like Níđhöggr did to Yggdrasil in Norse mythology. The roots are a means to access the world's heart, similar to the wells underneath Yggdrasil, that lead to different "realms".

Aman'Thul realises this, and pulls the tree out of the ground in a fit of rage. Out comes Y'shaarj, slithering, writhing, and roaring. He tumbles through the air, until he finally crashes down, dead, south of the well. More or less in the region between Pandaria, Undermine, and Zabdalar.

Back at the resulting crater, the Well eventually forms above the roots of Elun'Ahir, either from Azerite or the tears of Eonar.

As for Y'shaarj, his legacy is known to us. His blood crystallises above and below ground. Manifestations of his personality form the Sha across Pandaria. The heart is found and locked away underneath the earth by Ra.

And maybe, according to one theory, his murdered sister Xal'atath has her essence trapped within one of his claws, and is now free to roam Azeroth.

Over the years, Y'shaarj's lesser brethren seek to use his findings in their own schemes. They use the world trees to corrupt. They tap into the Emerald Dream and create the Nightmare.

The whole thing seems completely nonsensical given that the old gods were literal mountains off flesh and you obviously wouldn’t plant a tree near one or lose sight of one when you are actively fighting a war against them with Y'shaarj being the first one they took down and the most dangerous.

And of course the black still beating still bleeding heart throws a wrench into the mix of it being his blood.

[Kiivar86]

And of course the black still beating still bleeding heart throws a wrench into the mix of it being his blood.

Yeah I was about to bring that up. The heart bleeds a dark purple/black substance as well while it pumps. And the puddle of goo that is all that remains of it is the same black-purple.