Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[doledippers]

Well, I believe Max much more than all the other clickbaiters.

yeah, it makes me kinda hyped because i know max is kinda meh on the open world events and that kinda stuff, so the fact he's pretty excited about this def makes me hyped

[Daniri]

Who is Max?

[doledippers]

Who is Max?

guild leader of liquid

[Scyth]

Blocking some users a while ago was definitely a good decision lol Defending SL is definitely a take..

We need some news soon or this thread will get even worse

[Nibelheimy]

I think revamped ulduar will be a zone, or more than one. Remember that ulduar used to be as big as a continent.

I've thought about this a lot, I'd actually be okay with the entire map being a giant Ulduar at this point. Keep the Spark of imagination train as a constant part of the map, stopping off in the different parts of Ulduar as the zones.

I'm hoping the TWW has a big lift in it too. It may seem so small but things like this, make the world feel very much alive. RIP GORGROND TRAIN.

[Vexilius]

We're getting more content than ever...

No, we're not. The filler trash they dump into the patches is not real content.

[doledippers]

No, we're not. The filler trash they dump into the patches is not real content.

yes it is, just cuz u dont like it doesnt mean it isnt

[Vexilius]

Has nothing to do with liking it. It isn't content.

[doledippers]

Has nothing to do with liking it. It isn't content.

i mean it just is, you can say it isnt, but it is. its something to do, its something new. content by definition can be boiled down to something produced for a certain medium.

[Zardas]

Has nothing to do with liking it. It isn't content.

May I ask what is "content" then ?

[Annihilas]

Getting heroic level gear out of delves (I would assume it's 1-2 pieces a week) works out just fine for someone like me that will not form too many social ties with people ever again after multiple fall outs and 10 years of raiding.

I'll be going hard on two characters with pvp and thats it, and the rest with world content/etc. Good enough!

This is what ruins the delves for me, no gearing allowed past Heroic Raid level or Mythic +15. Why can't new game systems EVER allow for gear on the higher end? Honestly, it does NOT have to be soooooooooooo lucrative that we're s***ing gear, but come on now, why don't casual players ever get anything good to strive for? What is the worry here? Too much gear?... just make a weekly lockout. Content too easy?... just tune appropriately. Can somebody explain Blizzard's thinking here?

[micwini]

1)i'm universally shitting on dragonflight, because i don't like it and i don't like how the current devs make content
2)past behavior is indicative of future behavior and the devs aren't really doing much to prove me or other doomers wrong
3)i said: 1) shadowlands had more content, which imo is true, 2) i enjoyed it more than dragonflight, 3) the patch zones were better which is also true. i don't see anyone praising zaralek or the emerald dream. at least korthia lasted more than 3 days and zereth mortis was actually good



i see a lot of slow burning hatred and apathy for dragonflight tho. many claimed df was the best expansion ever but now the general consensus is that dragonflight is meh at the best. also, by every available metrics the game is deader now than it was in shadowlands



1) dragonflight zones are indeed bigger but they also have a lot of negative space and emptyness
2) the events in dragonflight are low effort and boring. most of them are the usual fill the bar event. at least torghast was unique
3) 8 og dungeons vs 8 og dungeons + 1 megadungeon for both. sl also had bigger raids
4) pvp in shadowlands was better and the partecipation way higher. ss wasn't the huge success people expected it to be
5) sl had covenants, mission table, revamped levelling, etc.
6) as i said, the quicker pace is just smoke in the eyes: most patches in dragonflight had little to no content

More patches but less content. Happy that finally people are starting to see it. I said it beforehand and early on in the expansion, but everyone kept giving me shit for it. Its nice that they released 10.2.5 8 weeks after 10.2, but that patch only had like an hour of quests.

[Alanar]

Blocking some users a while ago was definitely a good decision lol Defending SL is definitely a take..

We need some news soon or this thread will get even worse

Open up the thread and you see more blocked users then not. Usually the same handfull of people who keep the thread alive, with pointless back and forth about pointless topics.

There is nothing to talk about, so ye.
Its better to spend time elsewhere imo.

[THC BANDIT]

yes it is, just cuz u dont like it doesnt mean it isnt

Are you just here to defend Blizzard all day or what? Bro the content is SOULLESS there is nothing to do that makes any sense in a videogame only if it was a facebook game or some shit.. if you dont m+ or raid what the hell can you even do? you can go out and farm transmog that looks like shit on 90% of the races.. farm rep for strange rewards that are BORING its soul suckingly boring to do anything that isnt raiding or m+.. mounts are fine to get but what the hell am i supposed to GAME outside of dungeons and raiding huh.. and dont start listing all the soulless content..

I want COOL FULL transmog sets that are hard to get either by solo or in group for starters OR unique weapon models. But no lets make a 100 weird bad maces axes and staffs silly transmog sets for the diversity crowd.

[Enrif]

Are you just here to defend Blizzard all day or what? Bro the content is SOULLESS there is nothing to do that makes any sense in a videogame only if it was a facebook game or some shit.. if you dont m+ or raid what the hell can you even do? you can go out and farm transmog that looks like shit on 90% of the races.. farm rep for strange rewards that are BORING its soul suckingly boring to do anything that isnt raiding or m+.. mounts are fine to get but what the hell am i supposed to GAME outside of dungeons and raiding huh.. and dont start listing all the soulless content..

I want COOL FULL transmog sets that are hard to get either by solo or in group for starters OR unique weapon models. But no lets make a 100 weird bad maces axes and staffs silly transmog sets for the diversity crowd.

I play WoW for nearly it's whole lifetime. Raids and PvP were the "content" i least interacted with. Because it is not my taste. Still, had a lot of good times and fun with it. You spouting your preferences as the only thing that matter to be "content" is laughable at best, absolutely ignorant at worst. MMOs cater to many things, as does WoW. From Raiders, to Dungeoneer, to PvPers, Roleplayers, Auctionhouse Goblins, Petbattlers, Collectors, and some more.

You are not the base to decide what is, and isn't content in WoW. Get a hold of yourself.

[Reive]

according to some people's logic, adding a line of text in a quest should also be considered content because they added something to the game lol

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Are you just here to defend Blizzard all day or what? Bro the content is SOULLESS there is nothing to do that makes any sense in a videogame only if it was a facebook game or some shit.. if you dont m+ or raid what the hell can you even do? you can go out and farm transmog that looks like shit on 90% of the races.. farm rep for strange rewards that are BORING its soul suckingly boring to do anything that isnt raiding or m+.. mounts are fine to get but what the hell am i supposed to GAME outside of dungeons and raiding huh.. and dont start listing all the soulless content..

I want COOL FULL transmog sets that are hard to get either by solo or in group for starters OR unique weapon models. But no lets make a 100 weird bad maces axes and staffs silly transmog sets for the diversity crowd.

you're supposed to play other games because wow likes to respect people's time. btw buy the new shop mount

[Valysar]

Back in the days we had new dungeons as new content, now we have boring public events that you have to farm hundred times to buy every collectibles.

[Varodoc]

Back in the days we had new dungeons as new content, now we have boring public events that you have to farm hundred times to buy every collectibles.

It's virtually the same content. Let us see these new dungeons you speak:

Patch 2.4: Magisters' Terrace, a 4 boss dungeon, so basically half of a megadungeon.

Patch 3.2: Trial of the Champion, a 3 boss dungeon in one room, pitiful.

Patch 3.3: The Frozen Halls, 3 dungeons for a total amount of 8 bosses, so basically a Megadungeon.

Patch 4.1: Copy-pasted Zul'Gurub and Zul'Aman are unworthy of being called new content. They are not new content. Pass.

Patch 4.3: The Dragon Soul dungeons, 3 new dungeons for a total of 12 bosses, so basically a Megadungeon. Also, two of those dungeons are literally just Dragonblight. Lazy and cheap.

Legion did add 2 new Patch dungeons (Cathedral of Eternal Night and Seat of the Triumvirate) as well as the first Megadungeon, but Legion was a once-in-a-lifetime kind of expansion, crafted from the literal sacrifice of WoD. WoD was sacrificed and thrown into the meatgrinder and eviscerated to give you Legion. It is not a feasible amount of content for your average expansion, it is too much.

The amount of Patch content as far as Dungeons go is virtually the same, Megadungeons are virtually the same as the Frozen Halls from ICC and the Dragon Soul minidungeons from Cata. It's all just one big instance instead of 3 smaller dungeons.

[Zardas]

according to some people's logic, adding a line of text in a quest should also be considered content because they added something to the game lol

Well, yes it is. Content means stuff in the game, it doesn't states anything about the quality of said stuff.

Back in the days we had new dungeons as new content, now we have boring public events that you have to farm hundred times to buy every collectibles and new dungeons, all of that at a faster rate.

Fixed it for you.

Like seriously, if any of the expansion from "back in the days" released nowadays, you would be the first to complain that there is no content.

[Woggmer]

This is what ruins the delves for me, no gearing allowed past Heroic Raid level or Mythic +15. Why can't new game systems EVER allow for gear on the higher end? Honestly, it does NOT have to be soooooooooooo lucrative that we're s***ing gear, but come on now, why don't casual players ever get anything good to strive for? What is the worry here? Too much gear?... just make a weekly lockout. Content too easy?... just tune appropriately. Can somebody explain Blizzard's thinking here?

Because then Mythic raids or anything past High-end Mythic+ keystones would become obsolete routes for gear. There'd be no point to do them if we can just get the same ilvl gear in Delves. It won't be much a challenge considering you'll have an AI partner to help you out and you can customize them to suit your playstyle and how you want to get through a Delve (according what Blizzard said)

Plus the high-end crowd would throw a huge fit at the idea of Mythic level gear being given out like candy to people who don't raid or do mythic+ (I don't agree with the sentiment, that's really the case they always make and fall back on.)