Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nightshade711]

Same. Also the mental gymnastics that people have about blizzard doing a "smokescreen" instead of literally lowering expectations for tomorrow's maintenance window with that post ...

I mean with the 8 week cycle they’ve been doing a 10.2.6 release wouldn’t surprise me.
But I also wouldn’t be surprised if it were to be next week.

I at least wanna know wtf is going to be in the patch. I wouldn’t mind for more class/race expansions.

[pacotaco]

While it would make sense, I don't think we have any evidence and it's not like Blizz is telling

While there's no hard evidence, there are some hints at it:
- The Drust story in Ardenweald seems weird, out of place and inconcluded.
- There's an "island" in Ardenweald full of Drust elites, with no use and with a non-interactable raid portal.
- The overall story of the expansion seems scrambled to cut out a patch, reuse things already made and still try to make sense:
It's supposed that originally the assault to Ardenweald was with the help of the Drust. We followed them, Sylvanas and Anduin to Thros (the raid tier we lost). There, we fight Anduin as last boss.

[Nymrohd]

The HS event may be the most miserable experience I've had in WoW in the past decade

[Sondrelk]

The HS event may be the most miserable experience I've had in WoW in the past decade

It is pretty poor. I almost wonder whether they wanted to have it more focused on the actual Hearthstone battles, but didnt manage to make it work. That part does seem weirdly tacked on, considering it's ostensibly the main event.

[Enrif]

Should've just been a damned HS Tavern somewhere that you could hang out in and share stories over a good ale. Maybe a boss attacks occasionally.

did you know there is a HS tavern model in WoW? Since 8.2.5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz2oPHaIy9I

[ImTheMizAwesome]

did you know there is a HS tavern model in WoW? Since 8.2.5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz2oPHaIy9I

It's really weird that they didn't use it, it would be perfect for anniversary and just to chill.

Just create a portal that takes us there and some small events happen etc.
Instead you have hearthstone areas in the most weird places.

[Reive]

dragonflight best expansion ever

[Lady Atia]

It's really weird that they didn't use it, it would be perfect for anniversary and just to chill.

Just create a portal that takes us there and some small events happen etc.
Instead you have hearthstone areas in the most weird places.

Yep, this would also have helped with the phasing issues since you could have used the same tech they used for the maw initially, preventing people from just opening the group finder and letting everyone server hop to a new portal lol.

[Cheezits]

It's really weird that they didn't use it, it would be perfect for anniversary and just to chill.

Just create a portal that takes us there and some small events happen etc.
Instead you have hearthstone areas in the most weird places.

The reason this and the Diablo event are so low-budget is because they are extremely time-sensitive. If it won't be used again after this week, why bother?

[allegrian]

I'm tired of events that make me log on at given hours, DF is full of them. Just add daily or weekly quests like always which I can complete anytime I log in.

[micwini]

I wonder how significant the dev update on Thursday will be. I hope it delves deeper into all content coming this spring, from 10.2.6 and S4 to Alpha and 10.2.7 PTR.

So bored with being kept in the dark. Would love a detailed plan for March through May at least.

It needs to be everything planned until the next expac. Like, is Season 4 (rehash) really going to last from mid may until mid september at the earliest?

[Auxis]

So I'm pretty sure I have the horss from the first HS event/promo, and killing shit drops stuff such as the transmog, pet, mount, HS toy.

What is the card collection thing all about, and is there anything significant from collecting them? I looked at the wowhead article on it and I just drew blanks. Felt like I lost braincells just staring at the whole thing.

[micwini]

I'm tired of events that make me log on at given hours, DF is full of them. Just add daily of weekly quests like always which I can complete anytime I log in.

This so much. It means that this is content for like a few weeks and then its over. It is not engaging doing it alone and you can't "plug and play" with these. There is 0 "plug and play" content apart from farming old stuff (which is also mostly weekly locked). Everything is locked behind timers these days and most if not all world content involves some form of waiting around for shit to happen.

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So I'm pretty sure I have the horss from the first HS event/promo, and killing shit drops stuff such as the transmog, pet, mount, HS toy.

What is the card collection thing all about, and is there anything significant from collecting them? I looked at the wowhead article on it and I just drew blanks. Felt like I lost braincells just staring at the whole thing.

You feel like this, because there is not too much too it. There is a gameboard toy and then you have 4 action buttons (common, rare, epic, legendary cards). Collecting the cards just widens the variety what appears on the board. It's also very gimmicky, so its just spamming the biggest button until one person wins.

[Sondrelk]

You feel like this, because there is not too much too it. There is a gameboard toy and then you have 4 action buttons (common, rare, epic, legendary cards). Collecting the cards just widens the variety what appears on the board. It's also very gimmicky, so its just spamming the biggest button until one person wins.

Which is a shame, because you don't need that much more to make it somewhat worthwhile. Add random cards from your "deck" into your bags each turn, choose which ones to use, and then have it be an autobattler.
It wouldnt be deep, but it would require a tiny bit more thought.

[micwini]

Which is a shame, because you don't need that much more to make it somewhat worthwhile. Add random cards from your "deck" into your bags each turn, choose which ones to use, and then have it be an autobattler.
It wouldnt be deep, but it would require a tiny bit more thought.

I mean they could just have made the toy have you play a real game of HS where you can pick all the classes and each class has only 1 set deck.

[Teriz]

dragonflight best expansion ever

I would definitely say its in the top 3.

[Lady Atia]

S-tier

- Legion (godly content, lore, patch cadence)

A-tier

- Mists of Pandaria (great except the long drought at the end)
- WotLK (held back by weak Lich King)
- BfA (held back by N'zoth stuff)

B-tier

- TBC (great at the time but also a bit course)
- WoD (would've been higher, but lacked content)
- Cataclysm (exciting at the time, but revamp too expansion-specific)
- Dragonflight (lame lore, repetitive content)

C-tier
D-tier
F-tier

- Shadowlands.

Legion = Dragonflight = MoP > Shadowlands = WotlK > Cataclysm > WoD = TBC > some bad chinese mobile game > BfA

Actually, Shadowlands would be better than Cataclysm without the initial shitty design of Covenants and the long content draughts, since Cata started great but had Dragonsoul at the end *shudders*.

TBC compared to other Expansions wasn't that good either, it's story was almost as shit as BfA lol.

Edit: Fuck it, Shadowlands was actually better than Cata cause we got lots of mounts. Changed that haha.

[Lady Atia]

Not to go too much off topic, but I'm guessing you didn't play Alliance during BFA? Because the story on Kul Tiras was amazing. Fantastic zones as well.

Nazjatar was also great, although I would've preferred a proper underwater zone.

The only downturns were Mechagon (which honestly wasn't bad, just a bit dull compared to the rest), and 8.3's lazy N'zoth finale.

Nazmir and Drustvar were great, I'll give you that. I really hated the design of Nazjatar, it was super ugly, the Palace was pretty though and what I thought the propper zone should have looked like.

The story though? Ewwww.

They also wasted N'Zoth, Zul and Aszhara in one expansion together with Nazjatar and Nyalotha which both could have been Expansions of their own.

Corruptions were ok 'till they added that trader which made the boring % stat corruptions BIS if you wanted to min max, would rather have only stuff like twilight devastation which were atleast fun.

The whole azerite necklace was the biggest let down after the awesome artifact weapons, and of course they ditched the best part of that system (you know, the TRANSMOG?!).

They raped Sylvanas and it took a whole expansion afterwards to get her back.

Also they should have added crossfaction raids with the N'Zoth patch since both Horde and Alliance literally stood together there after the whole Sylvanas bs arc, guess that would have had saved BfA but now it's one of the best points of Shadowlands instead haha.

[Cheezits]

I honestly thought Nazjatar was handled wonderfully despite the lack of a proper underwater zone or sub-zone. It was also left ambiguously-sized so that they could revisit the concept of a "Naga Zone" when it was something they could properly handle in their own, more fitting expansion (Midnight?)

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They also wasted N'Zoth, Zul and Aszhara in one expansion together with Nazjatar and Nyalotha which both could have been Expansions of their own.

They honestly saved Azshara by freeing her from just being N'zoth's stooge like she has been for the majority of her time in WoW. A shittier writing team would've just killed her after her fight or had N'zoth kill her once he was freed.

[doledippers]

looking forward to hearing about the s4 dungeon changes. hoping itll be more than just "8 returning DF dungeons with a new affix" , but if it IS just that, im ok with it