Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[milkmustache]

Its been almost 5 months since Blizzcon and we've had barely any dev updates except for some hero talent stuff, not even an alpha yet.
Wonder whats the issue over there.

Probably using the additional post expansion patches for DF to buy some time so when TWW Alpha kicks in and stuff starts rolling out it's only a few months until launch.

[Cheezits]

They want to sell Dragonflight as long as humanly possible, hence the post-expansion content and withholding alpha.

[Dracullus]

They want to sell Dragonflight as long as humanly possible, hence the post-expansion content and withholding alpha.

You realize DF is free with every TWW license since Blizzcon?

[Foolicious]

Its been almost 5 months since Blizzcon and we've had barely any dev updates except for some hero talent stuff, not even an alpha yet.
Wonder whats the issue over there.

Thats the norm for the most part. I think only bfa had a very early alpha, but bfa testing is famously known for being really bad with essentially no changes for 6 months or so.
A lot of public builds for late summer releases appeared around april, so we are still very much in the planned schedule.

[Dracullus]

5-6+ months Alpha/Beta used to be a norm. In DF they went very efficient, mostly because DF systems didn't have 15 iterations. Alpha started in July and expac launched in November.

[Makabreska]

They want to sell Dragonflight as long as humanly possible, hence the post-expansion content and withholding alpha.

What withholding Alpha? And what it has to do with selling DF as long as possible???

Man, 10 days past the Alpha possible release marking point and we are already getting ridiculous. If they would want to sell DF "as long as humanly possible", they would do a fourth raid tier.

[Kiivar86]

Lorerunner Cho: I'm you but cooler.

Anyone wonder why they didn't get him to do Minsc again in BG3 instead of Matt Mercer? I have to assume Jim didn't want to do 40 hours of VO. I can't imagine he's more expensive than Mercer.

Not sure why but I imagine maybe age has partly to do with it, Jim Cummings is 71 now after all. Also Mercer's got more name recognition especially in regards to D&D right now due to Critical Role.

I mean, not like there's much left of Argus to explore or discover. TBC is more likely since at least thanks to Classic, they can update TBC without having to worry about the old code since they can use Classic TBC to adjust and fix the problem.

Not much of Argus left? I mean there's the whole honking planet left, isn't there? You can see it in the skybox. That said, I don't have much hope for Argus to return in any capacity.

[Makabreska]

Not much of Argus left? I mean there's the whole honking planet left, isn't there? You can see it in the skybox. That said, I don't have much hope for Argus to return in any capacity.

From what we could see and experience, almost entire planet is a fel wasteland that looks like it's about to blow up any second, so that's probably gives us nothing more to explore. And that was the entire point, Kil'jaeden willingly sacrificed it to Sarg for power, the world soul was utterly fucked.

[Raetary]

Not much of Argus left? I mean there's the whole honking planet left, isn't there? You can see it in the skybox. That said, I don't have much hope for Argus to return in any capacity.

We are past 2017, Argus has now a flashed out look and environment and we pretty much explored the 2 only places on the planet that have any variance in aesthetic.
And the second one (Antorus) only does so within Sargeras' Facility.

The rest of the planet is an empty, green wasteland.
Just more Krokuun.

[Reive]

thoughts on cata classic getting updated models?

https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...20863650009168

[Ersula]

5-6+ months Alpha/Beta used to be a norm. In DF they went very efficient, mostly because DF systems didn't have 15 iterations. Alpha started in July and expac launched in November.

Really, every expansion's alpha/beta schedule has been very different, partly due to the gradual change of what those words mean within the larger video game industry. Before Cataclysm, an Alpha was firmly an internal thing & a beta is when you tested it among people outside the industry. But since then Alpha has been when only some of the game's features are playable, while a beta is when the game is functionally whole & just needs bugtesting. While back in Wrath the Beta launched & the Death Knight starting zone wasn't even playable & DKs just spawned in EPL with no fanfaire. Now you might even argue that alpha & beta are antiquated terms & everything pre-release is just "Early Access."

Dragonflight's was effectively a throwback to the pre-cata model where the DF "alpha" was just the beta, only they gated specific features & areas on specific weeks, but really it was in a Beta state as everything was largely ready to be played.

thoughts on cata classic getting updated models?

https://twitter.com/keyboardturn/sta...20863650009168

The update makes sense, considering all the classic textures were originally created this way & were de-resed to lower resolution for the sake of people's hardware capabilities. So these are just the original assets, finally able to be introduced at their full resolution. (Note: I'm not actually sure if these are the originals or they used some sort of up-res algorithm: That depends on whether or not they kept the original resolution texture artwork.)

I would like these textures to be functional in Classic & Season of Discovery, because the only thing that would get me to play Cata is if they announce they're finishing the cancelled Abyssial maw raid. I would consider anyone subjecting themselves to the original Cataclysm endgame twice in one lifetime a form of self harm.

If these new Twilight robes are them actually adding new things to Cata Classic then they should have led with that at Blizzcon.

[Kiivar86]

From what we could see and experience, almost entire planet is a fel wasteland that looks like it's about to blow up any second, so that's probably gives us nothing more to explore. And that was the entire point, Kil'jaeden willingly sacrificed it to Sarg for power, the world soul was utterly fucked.

I'll confess I forgot we got such a view of the world and only remembered the fraction we see from the zones we're in. Fair enough.

What a waste of Argus, all the same.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I forgot that there's some new holiday listed as 10.2.7, maybe these TBC/classic recolors will tie to that.

[Chickat]

Is it going to be a micro holiday or a new substantial one like Hallows Eve/Winter Veil.

[Jaggler]

Is it going to be a micro holiday or a new substantial one like Hallows Eve/Winter Veil.

If it's a bigger one, i wonder, what it could be based on, i am not aware of any major (new) major real world holidays/festivals in the timeframe 10.2.7 is slated to be in.

[Dracullus]

If it's a bigger one, i wonder, what it could be based on, i am not aware of any major (new) major real world holidays/festivals in the timeframe 10.2.7 is slated to be in.

I guess something for late July or August, only bigger holiday gap is between Midsummer and Brewfest. Maybe some big revamp of Harvest Festival? It's pretty useless right now. But most likely something completely new.

[Lady Atia]

I guess something for late July or August, only bigger holiday gap is between Midsummer and Brewfest. Maybe some big revamp of Harvest Festival? It's pretty useless right now. But most likely something completely new.

It's prolly the pride festival, as we got some assets with rainbows datamined iirc (or are they used for the easter event?).

- - - Updated - - -

Anyone heard anything new about delves lately? For becoming the new messiah of casual small group gameplay, the devs seem to talk too little about it. Will this be the next big cancelled feature?

Because there is literally 0 reason to talk about it before the launch of alpha? Delves need actually gameplay footage from different players, not some blog post or marketing video.

[Cherry123]

Where is my alpha test

[Raetary]

Where is my alpha test

In the coming weeks.

[Lady Atia]

They could at least talk about what kind of gameplay it will be. Currently noone knows anything about it, yet the players handle this new feature as the big hope of casual gamers for the future.

See, they are already changing M+ to make it a better curve for casuals, and I'm all in for making Mythic raiding more accessible, because the current model of making a raid for 3 guilds and than nerfing it to the ground so that top 1k guilds can clear it after 6 months is just bullshit. It's cool that delves seem to be something more beefy for "outdoor players", but imo the game needs every pillar made for the majority of it's players, not only 1%. Atleast PVP will get Battleground Blitz next Expansion.

Thinking that delves alone will be the "feature for casual gamers" is gonna fail though, as I said, EVERY pillar needs to me more accessible, instead of trying to create consolation content. M+ does it best rn, M+20 can be done by EVERYONE if they want, and everything above just gives the hero title which is a variant of the seasonal title anyways.