Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Lahis]

I get this thinking...but doesn't he need to be a Dalaran Citizen? I suppose he could be. But that would also bend the astutely neutral dalaran extremely far toward the Alliance.

Council of Six has been very alliance flavoured ever since Sunreaver was kicked out by Jaina. Umbric beign there doesn't really change things.

[Ersula]

Council of Six has been very alliance flavoured ever since Sunreaver was kicked out by Jaina.

...and then they fired her. Because she did that.

[micwini]

...and then they fired her. Because she did that.

Sunreaver is most obvious for new 6th member, as they reinstated the blood elf (sunreaver) guards back on PTR as well.

[milkmustache]

Nothing that I can see.

Bummer. Maybe in a later build? Was really hoping to see it culminate in a full Tauren settlement there. 10.2.7 has to be the last opportunity for it.

[Makabreska]

Well, addons confirmed in MoP Remix.

Retail talents, so entire current class versions also confirmed.

[Lahis]

...and then they fired her. Because she did that.

No. Jaina stayed in as the leader untill Legion, when rest of the Council voted to let Horde back in. She then quit the Council and Kalec took her place.

[Throren]

Well, addons confirmed in MoP Remix.

Retail talents, so entire current class versions also confirmed.

Well ya thats always been sorta a given imo, its not a complete separate mode like Plunderstorm. Remix takes place on the regular servers/realms of your choice.

Its not supposed to be MoP classic+
Its timerunning+

[Lahis]

Well, addons confirmed in MoP Remix.

Retail talents, so entire current class versions also confirmed.

It happens in retail servers, so all normal addons and systems stand.

You just roll a new character that is stuck on phased version of Pandaria untill the end of the event.

[Throren]

...and then they fired her. Because she did that.

as someone already stated, the rest of the council was seemingly onboard with the Sunreavers (rightfully) getting the boot from Dalaran
Jaina left the council by her own volition YEARS later when the council voted to let horde back into the city

[Makabreska]

Well ya thats always been sorta a given imo, its not a complete separate mode like Plunderstorm. Remix takes place on the regular servers/realms of your choice.

Its not supposed to be MoP classic+
Its timerunning+

It happens in retail servers, so all normal addons and systems stand.

You just roll a new character that is stuck on phased version of Pandaria untill the end of the event.

Ye, for some reason my initial take was that we will be playing MoP classes. But it makes much more sense to have retail design there, so people can be instantly familiar with the specs.

[Throren]

what Im curious about is if Dragonriding will be enabled in Remix or not, I feel like it must right? Since Dracthyr have the soar racial and it would make them much faster to use for the event otherwise

[Makorus]

what Im curious about is if Dragonriding will be enabled in Remix or not, I feel like it must right? Since Dracthyr have the soar racial and it would make them much faster to use for the event otherwise

It is enabled from the get-go, no need to hit level 30/40. Edit: full on Dragonriding. You can instantly dragonride.


Also: The lore reason for Remix is simply the Bronze wanting to document MoP, nothing about Xalatath for now.

[Lahis]

Ye, for some reason my initial take was that we will be playing MoP classes. But it makes much more sense to have retail design there, so people can be instantly familiar with the specs.

MoP versions of the classes will come in 2025 when MoP Classic launches.

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what Im curious about is if Dragonriding will be enabled in Remix or not, I feel like it must right? Since Dracthyr have the soar racial and it would make them much faster to use for the event otherwise

Right now Dracthyr racial traits say this on the character creation:



So the empowered Soar only unlocks after you get access to Dragonriding. Right now on live servers that is right after you leave the starting area, but if you can create lvl 10 Dracthyr for Timerunning, they would only have the gimped pre 10.2 version untill lvl 60+ since that's when Dragonriding activates.

So it would be an advantage, but not as massive as full on dragonriding from lvl 10 would be.

[Sondrelk]

what Im curious about is if Dragonriding will be enabled in Remix or not, I feel like it must right? Since Dracthyr have the soar racial and it would make them much faster to use for the event otherwise

We could have gotten the old version of Soar that doesn't have Dragonriding attached.

[Nymrohd]

as someone already stated, the rest of the council was seemingly onboard with the Sunreavers (rightfully) getting the boot from Dalaran
Jaina left the council by her own volition YEARS later when the council voted to let horde back into the city

Also, Jaina did not do anything alone. She acted together with Modera who in no way objected and also contains Ansirem who together with Modera allowed Garithos to imprison Kael'thas.
Not that it matters. It is curious for Dalaran to have let in the Horde anyway and they only did so in desperate times. The elves have always been a minority and the Council of Six has always been predominantly human (at no point do we know of more than one elf seated); Silvermoon did not exactly think highly of elves who mingled with humans even in Dalaran (xenophobia goes both ways for sure).

The only issue is that the Kirin Tor have become the default Arcane organization in Azeroth. There is no reason for that any more. It made sense when they effectively controlled the Guardian but that stopped being true in Aegwynn's time. The idea that the modern Horde needs representation in Dalaran when they include Silvermoon and Suramar and their respective Magisters is just silly.

[Sondrelk]

It is enabled from the get-go, no need to hit level 30/40. Edit: full on Dragonriding. You can instantly dragonride.


Also: The lore reason for Remix is simply the Bronze wanting to document MoP, nothing about Xalatath for now.

So there is full flying?
Not sure how I feel about that. Was hoping Timerunning would try out some alternative ground based movement, alongside properly having a version of the game where you are stuck to the ground again now that all signs point to flying being available instantly every expansion again.

[Makorus]

So there is full flying?
Not sure how I feel about that. Was hoping Timerunning would try out some alternative ground based movement, alongside properly having a version of the game where you are stuck to the ground again now that all signs point to flying being available instantly every expansion again.

Full on Dragon-Riding, and they also added Dreamsurge-esque orbs in the sky to collect that give you around 20 Bronze each.

[Lahis]

Well then. Dragonriding is available from the start. That solves the Soar issue.

[Nymrohd]

Gameplay-wise it seems to me that Remix is entirely about leveling characters fast and collections. I doubt the gameplay will be challenging or compelling in a different way; it is just content scaled to not melt when played by a DF character. We will see when people reach heroic raids and Mythic SoO.

It's not really even about experiencing MoP, we'll have to wait for MoP classic for that sadly.

[Makabreska]

So there is full flying?
Not sure how I feel about that. Was hoping Timerunning would try out some alternative ground based movement, alongside properly having a version of the game where you are stuck to the ground again now that all signs point to flying being available instantly every expansion again.

A ground version of DR was always an unrealistic scenario. Too many problems with terrain, and normal DR is way to successful to suddenly make peeps go back to crawling on the ground. They are speeding things up in MoP Remix, so DR makes perfect sense.