Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Dracullus]

They likely have no new games to show. Do a Blizzcon to do what, reveal patch content for their games? At best they have the Vessel of Hatred for D4 and goodwill for D4 depends entirely on S4 pulling a miracle.

They will probably do their presentations on a Microsoft/Xbox event.

Are you honestly believe D4 expac need 'miracle' to pull huge numbers after D4 sold 12M in first 3 months?

[SilverLion]

I agree with your point but I also believe Bobby Kotick Activision was an entity of metaphysical evil.

People want to believe that the human cost doesn't exist. I'm as anti capitalist as you can be generally, but even people like me have to admit there are degrees of terrible. If working for Phil Spencer was as bad as working for Bobby Kotick, we'd have heard about it by now. Spencer may not be a good human, but all records are showing he's still less of a monster than Bobby.

[Ersula]

Blizzard is basically world of warcraft company now only

That seems to be the reason they wanted Metzen back. I think they desperately wanted him back once they saw Diablo 4 & Overwatch 2 were projected to underperform. Hearthstone is solid, but that's also a Warcraft property.

Maybe that's for the best? Blizzard used to do one game at a time.

Is that accurate? Even before Activision there was the Blizzard North days. Diablo & Warcraft were different teams being made simultaneously. In fact Warcraft 3 & WoW were made the same way...simultaneously.

Are you honestly believe D4 expac need 'miracle' to pull huge numbers after D4 sold 12M in first 3 months?

That's true, but the problem is D4 had a huge dropoff. Typically expansions are for games who's sales have relative longevity. I can only expect it doing well after people realized they don't like the evergreen gameplay elements is if all those people were satisfied by the story mode alone and buy an expansion for that.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

The last time Blizzcon was exciting to go to was in 2014, when they announced Overwatch and Legacy of the Void. Some of the panels back then were informational, but as the years went by and Blizzard became incapable of releasing more games, the panels are also declined in quality. So you're paying $200 for a ticket and $20 in gas to drive down there to... what? Drink with guildies outside and eat bad foodtruck stuff? Or visit a Convert to Raid podcast party at the Hilton? Or spend another $200 to walk around in Disneyland in 100 degree heat? And if you're from out of state, then that's another $200 you have to pay for a hotel, and maybe another $200 on top of that for a plane ticket. It's a really tough sell today.

[dadori]

Saying, we will be back in the future years means, they will be working on new projects with microsoft for sure but requires couple years before they have anything beside wow to show off anyway.

[Padwarle]

I somehow managed to get into what I assume is the post pre-patch but pre expansion intro phase of Dalaran on Alpha, it's confined to the portal room. The one main thing is that Archmage Drenden is there, though currently as the little placeholder box.

[Ersula]

I somehow managed to get into what I assume is the post pre-patch but pre expansion intro phase of Dalaran on Alpha, it's confined to the portal room. The one main thing is that Archmage Drenden is there, though currently as the little placeholder box.

I assume there's substantially more to the event during the pre-patch (not including the ensorceled memories event.) The actual TWW intro seems to be happening in-media-res, and the encrypted 10.2.7 questline seems like too long of a wait to continue something that is supposedly in real-time. That makes me assume it's a three-phase campaign questline, with the Ren'dorei questline in 2.7 being part one, the beginning of the attack happening during the pre-patch being part 2, and the intro to Dornogol being part 3.

[milkmustache]

I somehow managed to get into what I assume is the post pre-patch but pre expansion intro phase of Dalaran on Alpha, it's confined to the portal room. The one main thing is that Archmage Drenden is there, though currently as the little placeholder box.

Lol that'd be a different direction for the new Council of Six member compared to what most people assumed.

[Zardas]

I could probably pull up at least 100 posts from just this forum begging to get it over with the Overwatch new hero and the Hearthsone expansion (lol) and Rumble (lol).

What a shock that people in a mostly wow-dedicated forum care mostly about wow. Also they didn't announced a new hearthstone expansion at Blizzcon. Said expansion had already been announced for 3 weeks at this point and released a week after (and it was surprisingly very good btw).

[Nymrohd]

I assume there's substantially more to the event during the pre-patch (not including the ensorceled memories event.) The actual TWW intro seems to be happening in-media-res, and the encrypted 10.2.7 questline seems like too long of a wait to continue something that is supposedly in real-time. That makes me assume it's a three-phase campaign questline, with the Ren'dorei questline in 2.7 being part one, the beginning of the attack happening during the pre-patch being part 2, and the intro to Dornogol being part 3.

It could be that we get an intro like Legion where there is an actual event open the last few hours before launch.

[Sondrelk]

I assume there's substantially more to the event during the pre-patch (not including the ensorceled memories event.) The actual TWW intro seems to be happening in-media-res, and the encrypted 10.2.7 questline seems like too long of a wait to continue something that is supposedly in real-time. That makes me assume it's a three-phase campaign questline, with the Ren'dorei questline in 2.7 being part one, the beginning of the attack happening during the pre-patch being part 2, and the intro to Dornogol being part 3.

Seems to me like a redux of the Legion pre-patch and opening, except with Dalaran being destroyed this time. And back then you had Dalaran float around above Karazhan until the expansion started.

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Lol that'd be a different direction for the new Council of Six member compared to what most people assumed.

I mean, given what we know happens it might be Xal'atath in disguise or something, explaining why Dalaran is destroyed.

[Ersula]

Seems to me like a redux of the Legion pre-patch and opening, except with Dalaran being destroyed this time. And back then you had Dalaran float around above Karazhan until the expansion started.

Then that means the whole storyline is basically "Alright adventurers, Xalatath is up to something so stay vigilant. (Several weeks later) oh shit a million spiders are attacking dalaran" which makes it a lot funnier.

[Reive]

alpha servers went down

[Valysar]

Yeees this means a new wave is coming

[Varodoc]

What a shock that people in a mostly wow-dedicated forum care mostly about wow. Also they didn't announced a new hearthstone expansion at Blizzcon. Said expansion had already been announced for 3 weeks at this point and released a week after (and it was surprisingly very good btw).

Are you saying that a significant portion of the Hall was hyped for Mauga (lol) or Rumble?

I find that almost impossible to believe.

[Cheezits]

I somehow managed to get into what I assume is the post pre-patch but pre expansion intro phase of Dalaran on Alpha, it's confined to the portal room. The one main thing is that Archmage Drenden is there, though currently as the little placeholder box.

I know people are going to be mad that it seemingly isn't Umbric but I felt that option was a bit forced, IMO.

[Nymrohd]

I know people are going to be mad that it seemingly isn't Umbric but I felt that option was a bit forced, IMO.

Honestly, I like that they brought back an OG. At the same time though, I doubt he'll get any character development. Umbric, Aethas or Meryl would

[allegrian]

I didn't expect a blizzcon this year. They had metzen return + world soul saga reveal last year which alone made the blizzcon worth it. Right now they'd have a blizzcon with a wow content patch announcement and a diablo 4 expansion. They could have a blizzcon next year for Wow Midnight announcement and maybe something new they had 2 years to work on.

[Khaza-R]

BlizzCon kind of feels like a relic. It started in the semi-digital era and when Blizzard was renown for their golden touch with games.

Now, neither of those are really true anymore. Maybe they'll find a way to make it work in the future, but as is, it seems better they stick conventions for multiple developers.

[Kiivar86]

I had to look up Drenden because I do not remember them at all.

A decent pick, I suppose, but also a real "...who?" at the same time.