Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Varodoc]

This is true in that trying to predict what patch content the devs will think up will always lead to disappointment, but I don't think the Tirisfal region is out of the question as they've never been clear exactly where Quel'thalas' boarder is. The forest itself was always a matter of contention. With any Human structures east of stratholme were built after the fall of Silvermoon.

Some coastline around Stratholme and south of the Thalassian Pass? Sure.

Tirisfal Glades and the Hinterlands? Nope, that is stretching it too far south.

Gilneas and Stromgarde? Impossible, half a continent away from the Sunwell.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Both sides of this argument are annoying because neither of you understand the nuance that early dragon aspect technology & titan technology is the exact same thing. All the technology the aspects had were given to them by the Titans.

I’ve already said one could possibly consider dragon tech to be Titan tech that’s not really the issue.

People want to say the prisons came from the titans them selfs to point to Azeroth being locked up by the titans when they first arrived because of the logo. But the prisons didn’t exist when the titans were at Azeroth, didn’t exist when the keepers were doing stuff, and have absolutely nothing to do with either.

The dragons came up with the concept, the dragons designed them, the dragons built them, the dragons put them to use, all thousands of years after any thing to do with the ordering of Azeroth or the world soul and all without a hint of involvement from Titan or keeper.

[Darkarath]

I expect something like this:

This is probably the more realistic approach.

I know that a full north Eastern Kingdoms revamp is very unlikely, but it will be such a missed opoortunity.

[Xilurm]

Do you think the scar will be gone?

[Dracullus]

I can definitely see them trying to recreate Legion with epic view of (near) corrupted Sunwell from our hub in Silvermoon.

[Varodoc]

Also, just because Blizzard said that the goal of the expansion will be defending the Sunwell, doesn't mean the Sunwell will be launch content.

In WoD, the goal was shutting down the Dark Portal, but the Dark Portal was patch content.

In Legion, the goal was shutting down the portal at the Tomb of Sargeras, but the Tomb of Sargeras was patch content.

In SL, the goal was defending the Arbiter and the Sepulcher from the Jailer, but both of these plotlines ended up being patch content.

If anything, it's very likely that the Sunwell will be patch content. With Sunwell Plateau returning as a raid tier.

[Raetary]

Also, just because Blizzard said that the goal of the expansion will be defending the Sunwell, doesn't mean the Sunwell will be launch content.

In WoD, the goal was shutting down the Dark Portal, but the Dark Portal was patch content.

In Legion, the goal was shutting down the portal at the Tomb of Sargeras, but the Tomb of Sargeras was patch content.

In SL, the goal was defending the Arbiter and the Sepulcher from the Jailer, but both of these plotlines ended up being patch content.

If anything, it's very likely that the Sunwell will be patch content. With Sunwell Plateau returning as a raid tier.

I don't think anyone disputes this.

The Sunwell is a very obvious raid tier.

[Ksgrip]

Seems like Anduin no longer considers himself to be king… I have a bad feeling about this because of the nonsense Blizz is going to come up with

[Darkarath]

Also, just because Blizzard said that the goal of the expansion will be defending the Sunwell, doesn't mean the Sunwell will be launch content.

In WoD, the goal was shutting down the Dark Portal, but the Dark Portal was patch content.

In Legion, the goal was shutting down the portal at the Tomb of Sargeras, but the Tomb of Sargeras was patch content.

In SL, the goal was defending the Arbiter and the Sepulcher from the Jailer, but both of these plotlines ended up being patch content.

If anything, it's very likely that the Sunwell will be patch content. With Sunwell Plateau returning as a raid tier.

With this, I can agree.

10.1 The Isle of Quel'Danas and 10.2 K'aresh seem so obvious that I bet that we will be wrong.

[Nightshade711]

I expect something like this:

I would love to see a revamped Stratholme, perhaps as part of an expansion zone.

[Varodoc]

Seems like Anduin no longer considers himself to be king… I have a bad feeling about this because of the nonsense Blizz is going to come up with

Relax, they're not going to do anything to Turalyon.

If Blizzard wants to continue with this foolish nonsense that the Light is Evil, they will simply use the new Emperor of Arathor. A fresh canva, an unknown, that can be developed however way they see fit, instead of assassinating Turalyon or Yrel.

Rejoice, Turalyon is not going anywhere. Especially since Stormwind has experienced an unprecedented period of stability and peace since he took over.



Ah Yes, I am so happy, words cannot possibly express how happy I am that nothing will happen to Turalyon and there will NEVER be a Siege of Stormwind. (Instead, we'll have a Siege of Avaloren with Emperor as the final boss)

[BaumanKing]

Relax, they're not going to do anything to Turalyon.

This is clearly the beginning of an arc for Anduin. He doesn't want to be king, but circumstances will force him to rule again. It's kinda obvious. And while I agree that it feels like plans for Turalyon's zealotry have been scrapped, we still don't know all the details. TWW hasn't even started yet. All we know is that Turalyon hates politics and doesn't want to rule, so he won't sit on the throne forever.

[Enrif]

I expect something like this:

something like this is the most likely. though i could see it divided up in different ways.

Like these three can be zones, with a 4th surprise zone, being either naga zone or a portal to karesh.

The former ghostlands could be entirety be focused about amani, with the death aspect being largely removed.

[Xilurm]

And while I agree that it feels like plans for Turalyon's zealotry have been scrapped, we still don't know all the details.

They were never a thing in the first place. Turalyon is a hero, not some evil mastermind that you think he is for some reason.

I just hope they don't turn this into another boring council scenario. Anduin is the King because he is of the Wrynn bloodline. He should be King, full stop.

[Varodoc]

This is clearly the beginning of an arc for Anduin. He doesn't want to be king, but circumstances will force him to rule again. It's kinda obvious. And while I agree that it feels like plans for Turalyon's zealotry have been scrapped, we still don't know all the details. TWW hasn't even started yet. All we know is that Turalyon hates politics and doesn't want to rule, so he won't sit on the throne forever.

Correct, Anduin doesn't want to be king, circumstances will force him to rule again, and coincidentally Blizzard just name-dropped a Light Emperor ruling over an entire empire of Humans/Elves/Half-Elves.

Well then, the road ahead is clear. While Turalyon remains on the throne of Stormwind, Anduin will go through some bullshit and end up the Emperor of Arathor.

Anduin will no longer be a king... he'll be an emperor.

[Auxis]

How many of the Hero talents have their spell effects implemented? Because I've only seen Sunfury, Voidweaver, Archon, and the 3 warlock ones (granted, Hellcaller doesn't seem visually impressive so I'm not sure if that's ready or not) with spell effects. And there seems to be very little people posting showcases/deepdives into the talents and instead are just gung-ho'ing it through dungeons which makes it difficult to see the animations.

[Thomir]

How many of the Hero talents have their spell effects implemented? Because I've only seen Sunfury, Voidweaver, Archon, and the 3 warlock ones (granted, Hellcaller doesn't seem visually impressive so I'm not sure if that's ready or not) with spell effects. And there seems to be very little people posting showcases/deepdives into the talents and instead are just gung-ho'ing it through dungeons which makes it difficult to see the animations.

I hope Herald of the Sun gets better visuals. The lines and sun icon look stupid.

[Xilurm]

Correct, Anduin doesn't want to be king, circumstances will force him to rule again, and coincidentally Blizzard just name-dropped a Light Emperor ruling over an entire empire of Humans/Elves/Half-Elves.

Well then, the road ahead is clear. While Turalyon remains on the throne of Stormwind, Anduin will go through some bullshit and end up the Emperor of Arathor.

Anduin will no longer be a king... he'll be an emperor.

Why would he be emperor of Arathor?

[Darkarath]

How many of the Hero talents have their spell effects implemented? Because I've only seen Sunfury, Voidweaver, Archon, and the 3 warlock ones (granted, Hellcaller doesn't seem visually impressive so I'm not sure if that's ready or not) with spell effects. And there seems to be very little people posting showcases/deepdives into the talents and instead are just gung-ho'ing it through dungeons which makes it difficult to see the animations.

In most cases, I think that they are not implemented at all. Hero Talents no doubt, especially for some classes, will change quite a bit, and so those special effects will have to change too.

What is clear, at least for the videos that I have seen, is that they will increase our power dramatically.

[Jolly Roger]

i think we will see alleria sacrifice herself in midnight and become corrupted in 11.3