1. #67761
    The shield hook was reinforced with magic by a wizard and light by a priest. There you have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raetary View Post
    You are free to not like it.
    That isn't the issue.

    The issue is you applying some standard of realism to her but then ignore the ridiculous, nonsensical and flat out weird designs of the last 20 years of WoW.
    Verisimilitude is finicky I guess? It's not so much about realism as much as it is about whether something triggers that response. It's also about what you are accustomed to. Most fantasy armor makes no sense but we've gotten accustomed to weird ornamentation, spikes everywhere, chainmail bikinis and armor made of leather straps just as we've gotten accustomed to Guts' Dragonslayer or Sephiroth's Masamune. I don't think I've ever seen Faerin's shield design before and it does feel weird to me.

    Give it a year and I'll be OK with it. I do think I'd react better to it if the shield was just an extension of the pauldron instead of a separate item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raetary View Post
    You are free to not like it.
    That isn't the issue.

    The issue is you applying some standard of realism to her but then ignore the ridiculous, nonsensical and flat out weird designs of the last 20 years of WoW.
    if you have to ignore ALL logic then the plot/setting is trash.

    Quote Originally Posted by Civciv View Post
    Do you like Kargath Bladefist?
    yes and his design makes 10 times more sense. he's using his blade to cut and not defend himself. his blade is also bolted on his arm while faerin has a shield hanged on a small ass hook

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    if you have to ignore ALL logic then the plot/setting is trash.
    Literally no one talks here about all logic. We are talking purely about armor and weapons.
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    I think she would looked cooler with an arm like this


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    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    if you have to ignore ALL logic then the plot/setting is trash.



    yes and his design makes 10 times more sense. he's using his blade to cut and not defend himself. his blade is also bolted on his arm while faerin has a shield hanged on a small ass hook
    The force on his arm if someone blocked an attack from him would probably break his arm. You know how a baseball bat recoils if you hit a fence post or something? Imagine if the bat was your arm.

    We literally know that it's not just yolo-strapped to her armour, there are force dampeners and more. It's more elaborate than "just a hook on her armour"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    if you have to ignore ALL logic then the plot/setting is trash.



    yes and his design makes 10 times more sense. he's using his blade to cut and not defend himself. his blade is also bolted on his arm while faerin has a shield hanged on a small ass hook
    No ones saying "ignore all logic", what i'm saying that your standard of when to suspend your disbelief is ridiculous and arbitray.

    Kargaths arm makes absolutely no practical or physical sense.
    Besides that he literally cannot use his arm for anything else besides combat, as having a giant razor for a hand is not exactly something you can use in most daily activities, it doesn't even make logical sense in combat.
    Not only would it be impossibly heavy to wield, but any moderate blow to it is going to break his arm and render him useless.

    But sure """"logic"""".




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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Verisimilitude is finicky I guess? It's not about so much about realism as much as it is about whether something triggers that response. It's also about what you are accustomed. Most fantasy armor makes no sense but we've gotten accustomed to weird ornamentation, spikes everywhere, chainmail bikinis and armor made of leather straps just as we've gotten accustomed to Guts' Dragonslayer or Sephiroth's Masamune. I don't think I've ever seen Faerin's shield design before and it does feel weird to me.

    Give it a year and I'll be OK with it. I do think I'd react better to it if the shield was just an extension of the pauldron instead of a separate item.
    I bet you somebody who has actually handled real swords finds the sharpened clubs we run around with ingame way more irritating than that shield.
    The vast majority of them would be so insanely heavy and poorly balanced that they'd be effectively unusuable as anything but a mantlepiece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civciv View Post
    Can't wait for Alleria to go mad and kill her own husband&son.
    Haven't this already happened in Stormwind horrific vision in BfA? It would be a bit weak to just do it again :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Kargath Bladefist is literally a character
    And you know what he is? Dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    And you know what he is? Dead.
    He drop dead after realizing he's too unrealistic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    So Xe'ra getting killed right in front of his eyes and him just shrugging it off 5 mins later means he was blind af for the light?
    Xe ra was forcing illidan into something. Turalyon thought that was totally fine appearntly. He was indeed kinda blind before that. Xe ra was everything for him, he even pressented Illidan to it.

    The guy needed a wake up call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    And you know what he is? Dead.
    Literally how is this relevant?

    No one complained about unrealistic Kargath is. Because it's a video game. But as soon as the black woman is unrealistic, it's suddenly a problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    And you know what he is? Dead.
    Non sequitur
    One day we'll go to Nathreza

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Nah, Alleria won't become an evil psycho like Daenerys.
    We will see about that lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    We will see about that lol.
    Well, i would be surprised if she suddenly showed up with a bunch of Dragons... and rather unimpressed. I know their bosses personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    Xe ra was forcing illidan into something. Turalyon thought that was totally fine appearntly. He was indeed kinda blind before that. Xe ra was everything for him, he even pressented Illidan to it.

    The guy needed a wake up call.
    Which he got and apologised afterwards. Next topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    We will see about that lol.
    Highly doubt it, if it happens it will probably be a temporary thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    Xe ra was forcing illidan into something. Turalyon thought that was totally fine appearntly. He was indeed kinda blind before that. Xe ra was everything for him, he even pressented Illidan to it.

    The guy needed a wake up call.
    I wouldn't say totally fine, given how he was rather quickly accepting that it was in fact not fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    I think BfA is in a "special" place, because it is also part of the new player experience.
    It won't be in 11.0, and that has nothing to do with the raids.

    Ny'alotha/N'Zoth are likely difficult to change, since the cloak requirement is deeply involved, I get that, but for other bosses, it should work like for previous bosses that were changed, if there's too few players present, don't use mechanics that oneshot/permastun/etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    I wouldn't say totally fine, given how he was rather quickly accepting that it was in fact not fine.
    I feel like there is this common misconception that xera has brainwashed all of her followers into blind fanatics when thats simply not the case. It's this underlying theory that is always present when talking about turalyon. But no one can show any evidence that he is secretly evil and playing Jailer level mindgames with us all.

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