Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Grazrug]

At this point why even be Worgen ... or why even be human?

Why not be human? They are the one race next to elves still getting any story.

[JDBlou]

She is a void elf paladin... which is interesting
https://www.wowhead.com/npc=216244/aeonara-dawnshade

she uses at least consecration. And uses a flail and shield, a classic paladin image.

I think now that we have seen a Kul'tiran paladin in the Tyr questline and now this random void elf paladin, it is not long until we get paladins for everyone.

I think they'll be a prepatch feature of Midnight. They've been talking up Midnight as a climactic battle between Void and Light, how better to depict that than all races being allowed to be paladins, which can conveniently be leveled in the Midnight prepatch event with all the bonus XP prepatch events are known for.

[Lahis]

At this point why even be Worgen ... or why even be human?

As it stands, there are no Human druids yet, and even if there were I would still pick Worgen. Just like the Gilneas vibes better than Stormwind and with Worgen you do get two for one deal for character customization.

[Ksgrip]

"When the arrow hits its mark, the last fetter will fall away."

Negative take: If Alleria kills Turalyon, she will join the Void. So they're trying to turn her, endlessly. He is her lasy fetter to sanity.

Positive take: Once Alleria, the Void Hunter, has mastered her abilities and then shoots kills Xal'atath, it will be revealed who Xal'atath really is. No more games.

"At the hour of her third death, she will usher in our coming."

Negative take: Once Alleria figuratively dies again (for example by losing one among her family), she will surrender herself to the whispers and usher in the Void.

Positive take: Once Xal'atath dies again (her first time being when her Old God form was destroyed, and second when the Black Blade of the Empire no longer contained her), she will be able to usher in the Void.

I feel like all of this is intentional. Exactly why I believe by the same token that the whole “vacant throne” “the crown of light will only bring darkness” has been so very conveniently subverted by the Arathians and their golden emperor.


In my opinion simply by virtue of Arathors vision which was again referenced in a thousand years of war, dying with his son after being crushed I think Turalyon will have an heroic death.

In general I don’t see any of the old crew surviving beyond the saga being honest

[Enrif]

Did anyone catch the half-draneie/half-orc during the draenei heritage quest? Seems to be completely new NPC, Kothaar. As a german, his name is somewhat unfortunate.

[Skildar]

You can now be in human form while Astral form or Shadow form is active. Only took them 14 years to implement that

they've introduced this a few patches ago with the toggle to switch automatically into worgen form when entering combat and back into human when leaving it if I'm not mistaking.

[Kiivar86]

Just did the draenei heritage and man, that was fantastic - aside from the abysmally low drop rates for bones on Bloodmyst. But I loved being in Bloodmyst again, its honestly my favorite zone. Always has been.

Also super surprised to see Sironas of all people.

I was not able to attack it. It respawns close to the Horde camp, flies through the coast until more or less the Alliance camp, and then it suddenly dissapears ¡¡

It is obviously probably related to the Pandaria event, but maybe someone can have more insights about it?

Cool detail to add it at any rate.

Pandaria in Timerunning has a number of infinite dragons all over, as I understand it. At the least, Halfhill is full of them, from what I've seen elsewhere. They're here as part of the whole thing.

[Civciv]

Yeah Draenei Heritage is phenomenal (f that bone quest but hey, it's fine). I feel bad for my worgen alt, their heritage could've been at Draenei's level.

[CasualFilth]

Yeah Draenei Heritage is phenomenal (f that bone quest but hey, it's fine). I feel bad for my worgen alt, their heritage could've been at Draenei's level.

Switch WM on! Literally no soul to compete with

[Kiivar86]

Yeah Draenei Heritage is phenomenal (f that bone quest but hey, it's fine). I feel bad for my worgen alt, their heritage could've been at Draenei's level.

I absolutely adored the callbacks to so many characters, too. There are some really deep callbacks at the end.

Like, hell, Kumi'sha the Collector's there! There's that eredar rogue from Dalaran/the rogue order hall. Couple other lost ones who I had to really think back to remember. T'paartos!

This is an absolute love letter to the draenei.

Also, I admit I rarely play with audio on (usually listening to a stream or something) but I did with this and this is the first time I've heard Hatuun talk. I'm like 95% sure that's Scott McNeil voicing him.

Switch WM on! Literally no soul to compete with

Wish I had thought of that then, hah. But working together with others there was kinda fun. Trying to keep mobs alive for as long as possible.

[Gurahk]

So from what I'm hearing, the Draenei heritage questline is basically just the Orc questline in terms of how much they actually cared about it.

[allegrian]

Between mop remix and blizzard repeating that Dorne is near pandaria, I think we could see a content patch in pandaria, or at least some important quest chain there. What could make sense? Isle of thunder? Something related to Yshaarj?

[Treegdar]

Between mop remix and blizzard repeating that Dorne is near pandaria, I think we could see a content patch in pandaria, or at least some important quest chain there. What could make sense? Isle of thunder? Something related to Yshaarj?

Something Yshaarj related would make the most sense since we know Xal'atath is collecting old god essence. I love the theory that the various versions of wow currently running are exploring her collecting power, and that she'll show up in cata & pandamonium. Its time travel BS, but its fun and out there enough that the cool factor of it makes me not care.

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Update

The connecting of each version of wow through the upcoming villian feels like it would also be something you'd come up with when thinking about trying to write something for wow's 20th anniversary. Whats more up Metzen's alley than tying each version of his baby together story wise for an over the top epic reveal? Its similar to the whole "Jailer is responsible for everything" bit that was awful, but this is a much smaller scale story wise, makes enough sense to not be off putting, and is actually being hinted at before hand.

[allegrian]

So from what I'm hearing, the Draenei heritage questline is basically just the Orc questline in terms of how much they actually cared about it.

Yeah, saw the quest dev on twitter, he's a huge draenei fan. The reveal about building a new city is the cherry on top that makes us hyped for the future.

[Eldryth]

Pandaria in Timerunning has a number of infinite dragons all over, as I understand it. At the least, Halfhill is full of them, from what I've seen elsewhere. They're here as part of the whole thing.

Yeah, it's not just a non-canon thing, there's actually a little bit of story at the start to set it up. Mostly serves as a resolution to the No Limits storyline from earlier in the expansion showing that many more Infinites have ended up rejoining Nozdormu, and how they've found a new role bringing adventurers back to experience past events again and study them. I don't know if there's more than that later on, I just played a little bit on the PTR.

And there's also some Infinite bazaars throughout the continent (I think one in each zone) where you can customize your mounts and spend Bronze to upgrade items and buy skins.

[Merryck]

Yeah, saw the quest dev on twitter, he's a huge draenei fan. The reveal about building a new city is the cherry on top that makes us hyped for the future.

Who is the dev?

[Lahis]

they've introduced this a few patches ago with the toggle to switch automatically into worgen form when entering combat and back into human when leaving it if I'm not mistaking.

You couldn't be in Human form while Astral Form or Shadow form was applied. Those always used to put you into worgen form under them.

[dadori]

Good morning

Patch day yay !

[Scyth]

I've only just now realised MoP Remix starts on Friday at 2am my time and now I'm disappointed. I had assumed it goes live on Wednesday with the weekly reset

[Nymrohd]

So from what I'm hearing, the Draenei heritage questline is basically just the Orc questline in terms of how much they actually cared about it.

In the orc questline, far more NPCs have gossip text at the final celebration. It is a bit more limited with the Draenei. But otherwise yeah, it is similar. What the Draenei do get over the orcs is a promise of something far more specific; a new city instead of a revival of the tribes.