Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Nope, that isn't the case.

This is where the prison is mentioned:


Then we got 2 paragraphs of Fyrakk being confused, and Malygos being snarky until Ysera and Noz put him to sleep:



Fyrakk wasn't 'encased' by the prison, he was put in after the fact.

Yesra puts him to sleep, Noz puts him into stasis, which is what the prisons were made by the bronze to do.

[milkmustache]

Damn, Pandaria questing was superb.

No kidding. The intro sequences for both factions is just 10/10.

[Thomir]

How much faster is leveling? Tempted to delete my lvl 30 priest and level him up in the remix if it's much faster.

[Raetary]

Yesra puts him to sleep, Noz puts him into stasis, which is what the prisons were made by the bronze to do.

Ah yes, the function of induced chronomantic stasis that isn't mentioned anywhere in the book.

Yes, Noz and Ysera put them to sleep, they do that by themselves before imprisoning them, but the Prisons don't do anything more than containing them.
In fact, chapter 28 has imprisoned Vyranoth half awake and listening in on Alex lamenting the events.


Anyway, i'm done with this nonsense.

How much faster is leveling? Tempted to delete my lvl 30 priest and level him up in the remix if it's much faster.

Well, its not really that much faster at the start.
You have your cloak, which grants you bonus experience, but you have to build it up first.

[huth]

The neutral lands (few though they were) were kinda neat to have both factions mingling though.

Many parties at Reet's Retreat, I remember that well. Man, I loved AO back then.

But yeah, the neutrals were just...there. No real point in being one for long.

Challenge run, basically. I don't think the devs ever quite grasped that some people just don't want to join a faction though.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Ah yes, the function of induced chronomantic stasis that isn't mentioned anywhere in the book.

Here I went through my audio book just for you.

on the day the flights gathered to seal the vault of the incarnates under stone, alexstrsa descended into the vaults Inner sanctum. The three incarnates entombed in Thaldraszus Vyranoth Fyrakk and Iridikron each slept inside a great golden glowing orb, metal rings rotated along the outside and inside of the cells trapping the incarnates in stasis.

Also in chapter 28, and when Alex talks to Vyr it says she doesn't move or draw breath, check your self.

[Nymrohd]

How much faster is leveling? Tempted to delete my lvl 30 priest and level him up in the remix if it's much faster.

The first character will be slightly faster than average. Afterwards you will have a strong cloak (which gives +%xp) so it will get faster for every alt.

[Nathanyel]

They have the same underwear, they wear brown shorts, but the mechagnome ones are cropped because of their robo limbs and well, if you happen to mog/wear white pants...

So it's literally just based on an outfit, a player decision - I'm gonna start calling all Orcs "Sailor Moon" because of the meme screenshots when that Trading Post set was released, that makes the exact same amount of fucking sense.

[Khaza-R]

Damn, Pandaria questing was superb.

Its been a while since I did the questing experience but yeah, it feels so much more creative than anything we've seen the past couple of expansions.

[Raetary]

So it's literally just based on an outfit, a player decision - I'm gonna start calling Orcs "Sailor Moon" because of the memes when that Trading Post set was released, that makes the exact same amount of fucking sense.

Mmm, that doesn't really work.
Mechagnomes are stuck with their permanent panties, and if you just happen to equip a bright pair of pants, its gonna look like underwear or a diaper in this case.

Whereas to meme about sailor moon orcs, you have to go out of your way to put the whole outfit on.

[Nathanyel]

Mmm, that doesn't really work.
Mechagnomes are stuck with their permanent panties, and if you just happen to equip a bright pair of pants [...]

With Transmog, it's still a choice. Plenty of kilts even before the various "open coat" pant models from DF, which actually look interesting, at least on quick look via the Wowhead Dressing Room.

Not to mention the initial choice of rolling a Mechagnome. If you don't like the race based on a potentially bad outfit, maybe just don't play it?

[Nymrohd]

Honestly on the mechagnome thing, just put on the heritage armor and pretend you are a clockwork gnome. My mechagnome hunter (well I pretend he is a tinker) has very little flesh showing and looks quite cool.

[FossilFree]

Honestly on the mechagnome thing, just put on the heritage armor and pretend you are a clockwork gnome. My mechagnome hunter (well I pretend he is a tinker) has very little flesh showing and looks quite cool.

I wish they would just give us the rusty and silver recolors of the heritage armor already. It's kind of weird too, since we helped the Rustbolt Rebellion, who look rusty and use the rusty heritage armor, against the Mechagon city mechagnomes, who used the gold color that we can obtain.

[Civciv]

Here I went through my audio book just for you.


Also in chapter 28, and when Alex talks to Vyr it says she doesn't move or draw breath, check your self.

Reading is hard for some people

[Joshuaj]

Yesra puts him to sleep, Noz puts him into stasis, which is what the prisons were made by the bronze to do.

So the Bronze flight just helped in making Titan prisons for the Incarnates. Alright...

[Lorgar Aurelian]

So the Bronze flight just helped in making Titan prisons for the Incarnates. Alright...

Here I found a Pdf through totally legit means due to the only other person who apparently has the book miss representing the prisons and to put it to bed.

here is them coming up with the vault and planning to build it in full.

Alexstrasza spoke first: “Is everything all right?”
“Yes, yes, I apologize,” he said, waving off her concerns with a swirl of
his talons. “In terms of our western flank, I will organize the forces at
Wyrmrest Temple. They will be on the front lines, so we will need to send
our best—”
Malygos chuckled. “We are talking about how to imprison the
Incarnates, my friend. Just how long have you not been paying attention?”
“And you may have growled aloud at Nozdormu’s most excellent
suggestion,” Ysera said gently, though she exchanged a mirthful glance
with the bronze Aspect.
Neltharion cleared his throat, ignoring the way Alexstrasza was now
dissecting him with her gaze. “My apologies, Nozdormu, I was thinking
about strategy, and remembering the Primalists’ attack on the Reach. Will
you please repeat what you said?”
“As I was saying,” Nozdormu said, giving Neltharion an indulgent
smile, “if the Dragon Queen does not want to kill the Incarnates, we can
imprison them here.”
The bronze Aspect reached out and tapped a mountain range just east of
Tyrhold.
“I can work with the titan-forged to build a great vault where we can
hold the Incarnates in perpetual stasis,” Nozdormu said. “It will take
considerable time and effort to build, however.”
“Why don’t we just kill them?” Neltharion asked, looking to the Dragon
Queen.
“No,” Alexstrasza said. “I cannot and will not allow Vyranoth to be
executed—or any of them, for that matter. If they fall in battle, that is one
thing. Execution is another.”
“Fine,” Neltharion said. “Let us build a vault of Incarnates, then. My
flight will assist you in this endeavor, Nozdormu.”
“I would welcome your expertise,” the bronze Aspect said.
Alexstrasza smiled. “Very well! Are we all in accord?

and here is them finishing the vault.

on a late summer’s day, Alexstrasza stepped from the Vault of the
Incarnates, alone. She paused on the edge of the terrace in the
sunshine, sensing a chill upon the wind. For nigh unto twenty-five
years, the Broodlands had enjoyed relative peace…but she knew it would
not last.
Still, the flights had not wasted the time. The Vault of the Incarnates was
a testament to the black and bronze dragonflights’ ingenuity: With its white
marble columns and golden pediments, the vault was a stunning addition to
the sights of Thaldraszus. Blooming flora cascaded from the mountainsides.
Blessed rivers crashed down on either side of the vault, filling a sparkling
pool at its base. Birds filled the air with song.
Had she not known the true purpose of this place, the Life-Binder would
have found it peaceful. Serene. But the vault was little more than a beautiful
prison, a small kindness for those they had once called kin, friend.
Alexstrasza tried not to think too much on its purpose.
Neltharion had seated the Vault of the Incarnates on an underground bed
of magma, allowing its foundation to better absorb certain types of seismic
waves. Inside, Nozdormu and the titan-forged had created three spherical
cells, each one designed to hold an Incarnate in perpetual stasis. Raszageth
would remain in the Reach, where her prison was reinforced with
Malygos’s most potent wards.
As of today, Nozdormu and the bronze dragonflights were finishing the
time enchantments on each cell. Everything—at least for the vault—was
ready.

So planned out by the dragons, The actual sturucture was built by the blacks, The prisons them selfs come up with by and enchanted by Noz for "perpetual stasis". The titan forged had a hand but were in no way leads at any point.

and to cirlce all the way back to my actaul point all of this happens hundrends to thousands of years after the Titans left Azeroth and the Keepers cut contact all at the behest and under a dragon lead.

[Foolicious]

Damn, Pandaria questing was superb.

Other than the scenario quests sure. They still are as annoying as they always have been.

How much faster is leveling? Tempted to delete my lvl 30 priest and level him up in the remix if it's much faster.

I don't think its much faster for one char. After a bit more than 4 hours i reached level 30. Apparently level 60-70 takes a while too because quests exp doesn't scale as much as needed xp does, but no idea if that is true.
Also the cloak scales differently for alts as well. Just tested it and a new char only gets 4% more exp while my "main" gets 35%. I thought they get the full upgrade as well.
You will probably notice a difference for each additional character you are leveling after your first reaches 70, but it won't make a huge difference if you only want to level one.

[Scyth]

So this Landfall achievement we need to complete in order to buy some of the Class items, is that just the full MoP campaign?

[Kiivar86]

So this Landfall achievement we need to complete in order to buy some of the Class items, is that just the full MoP campaign?

Its the campaign for either side that came with 5.1, based in Krasarang Wilds.

[Joshuaj]

Here I found a Pdf through totally legit means due to the only other person who apparently has the book miss representing the prisons and to put it to bed.

here is them coming up with the vault and planning to build it in full.

and here is them finishing the vault.

So planned out by the dragons, The actual sturucture was built by the blacks, The prisons them selfs come up with by and enchanted by Noz for "perpetual stasis". The titan forged had a hand but were in no way leads at any point.

and to cirlce all the way back to my actaul point all of this happens hundrends to thousands of years after the Titans left Azeroth and the Keepers cut contact all at the behest and under a dragon lead.

I mean, that's cool and all, but the spheres that kept the incarnates in stasis were specifically made by Nozdormu and the Titanforged lol. Nozdormu likely followed things VIA Titan design, which would make sense as the Earthern of Khaz'algar also have prisons of the exact same model and magic, granted you could make the argument that the Earthern copied the prison designs after the incarnates were imprisoned.

Also, it is very much possible the Aspects created the Vault with the Titans in mind, especially since Týr was a good friend of theirs.

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Honestly? Anything goes, but the Vault was Dragon made, that is factual, albeit it was made likely VIA Titan inspiration. The full context helps a lot, thanks.