Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Cheezits]

Last boss only? Kinda lame. Usually in raids there are some other bosses you have met during questing. This will be an incomplete experience.

Considering it seems experimental/late, it will probably be expanded on. Or they will stick to the final boss to encourage LFR.

[Lady Atia]

People are going to be so mad when Frog Farmers just get a FoS, because Blizzard doesn't care that players got overpowered in Remix - the only reason they nerfed Frogs was because it made group finder (even more) unusable because all groups were just frog groups. When I started a group for something else, people just joined and started farming frogs. All other content was starved of players.

This won't happen lol, do you really think they will reward players even more for abusing the frog farm??

[Chickat]

Last boss only? Kinda lame. Usually in raids there are some other bosses you have met during questing. This will be an incomplete experience.

I agree. Its fine as an experimental mode, but I think they should expand it to entire raids eventually.

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Also, alpha builds are getting smaller, so Beta will probably be within the next week or two imo.

[Makorus]

I agree. Its fine as an experimental mode, but I think they should expand it to entire raids eventually.

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Also, alpha builds are getting smaller, so Beta will probably be within the next week or two imo.

I mean, the last few builds haven't really added any content. All Hero Talents are available now, and obviously all zones and dungeons.

[Makabreska]

I mean, the last few builds haven't really added any content. All Hero Talents are available now, and obviously all zones and dungeons.

Which means, raid testing soon!

[Zers Editor]

Today's build added the remaining max level questlines. Beta is not far, I think.

[Cheezits]

Today's build added the remaining max level questlines. Beta is not far, I think.

Is anyone openly covering the max level questline, or did the twitteroth people all swear themselves to secrecy on it?

[Chickat]

Im interested to see how max level outdoor content differs from DF. They said they have half revamped world quests a few weeks ago, so lets see what that means.

[Throren]

Is anyone openly covering the max level questline, or did the twitteroth people all swear themselves to secrecy on it?

Nobbel went through some of them last week and then went through some more of them on stream last night as well

[Xilurm]

Bit late but does anyone know what kind of armour the Vindicators and Soulpriests are wearing at Auchindoun in the Draenei heritage quest? They look dapper af.

I'm talking about these ones.

[Auxis]

Bit late but does anyone know what kind of armour the Vindicators and Soulpriests are wearing at Auchindoun in the Draenei heritage quest? They look dapper af.

I'm talking about these ones.

Mixed and matched pieces. Indicator is wearing cosmetic Mawsworn shoulders, some sort of recolour of the Sepulcher pally tier, belt is a Legion clothier tier matching piece iirc so I don't think you'll be able to replicate it on a plate user. Gloves are Sanctum of Domination related I think. Really interested in that hammer model though tbh. It definitely isn't the bog-standard Naaru hammer that every draenei pally uses. Is it a recolour of Tyrant Velhari's hammer?

Soul priest (assuming it's the one on the right) I have no clue beyond the staff and mask. Mask is Cata questing/dungeon cloth head armour, staff is from HFC void boss.

[Nathanyel]

Bit late but does anyone know what kind of armour the Vindicators and Soulpriests are wearing at Auchindoun in the Draenei heritage quest? They look dapper af.

Due to how NPCs are basically dressed like players these days, Wowhead can show that information in the "Outfit" tab on NPC pages.

Sadly, it seems the appearance of the chest on the Curates has no item associated, might be some unavailable recolor. Gotta have another look when I'm at the PC and not on a shitty phone.

Seeing some Gladiator Elite pieces on the Vindicators, even the chest is an Elite one despite showing as regular Gladiator - always sad to see items that just aren't available anymore despite being just another tint of items still available. Lanigosa was a big tease during the Blue Flight questline.

People are going to be so mad when Frog Farmers just get a FoS, because Blizzard doesn't care that players got overpowered in Remix

I think we're just seeing the visible end of a script to address overfarming. We are still in the first week of Remix - we are supposed to be able to get this OP, but not that quickly. They knew Frogfarming would be lucrative, but didn't expect it to get so popular so early. We are supposed to play the other things for a while before turning to the mindless grind.

This wasn't an exploit, but also not really intended, so it's not surprising to see it addressed similarly, but way more forgiving. No rollbacks, especially no bans, but maybe some kind of damper for frogfarmers for the next week or so.
We've already seen a shift to daily softcaps to let people farm Bronze/Threads by playing the actual activities, and only once you've completed all that, then frogfarming becomes a lucrative time investment again, but only the most... dedicated will bother with that.

At most, this hints to a future achievement for frog farming, obviously not retroactive.

[Makorus]

While I think frogfarmers should have gotten rolled back to some extent, I think people are overblowing the issues of "Why bother, I will never be as strong as people who farmed!".

Well, yeah, with a system like Threads, that is bound to happen regardless, just slower. You will always be behind people that play 24/7. Being upset that you are not as strong as people who play all day long is such an unhealthy attitude.

[Schwert]

The amount of rewards that are limited in time and the time investment it requires to get them all

3 months.
They're cheap.

Just run your daily raids and heroics and it just rains bronze.

[Makorus]

3 months.
They're cheap.

Just run your daily raids and heroics and it just rains bronze.

Yeah, the limited rewards amount to like 360k, which isnt that much.

[Xilurm]

Mixed and matched pieces.

For it being mismatched it looks pretty sick.

Due to how NPCs are basically dressed like players these days, Wowhead can show that information in the "Outfit" tab on NPC pages.

That's actually good to know, thanks!

[Nymrohd]

While I think frogfarmers should have gotten rolled back to some extent, I think people are overblowing the issues of "Why bother, I will never be as strong as people who farmed!".

Well, yeah, with a system like Threads, that is bound to happen regardless, just slower. You will always be behind people that play 24/7. Being upset that you are not as strong as people who play all day long is such an unhealthy attitude.

With the new spools it is no longer as much of an issue. Sure you won't be as OP but you definitely will be OP. The thing is, before spools I don't think you had a good chance of even getting to be OP in the first place.

[huth]

While I think frogfarmers should have gotten rolled back to some extent, I think people are overblowing the issues of "Why bother, I will never be as strong as people who farmed!".

Well, yeah, with a system like Threads, that is bound to happen regardless, just slower. You will always be behind people that play 24/7. Being upset that you are not as strong as people who play all day long is such an unhealthy attitude.

Not like it even matters. It's a pure PvE mode, what is important is how powerful you are compared to the content you want to do, not compared to other players.

[Auxis]

With the new spools it is no longer as much of an issue. Sure you won't be as OP but you definitely will be OP. The thing is, before spools I don't think you had a good chance of even getting to be OP in the first place.

Definitely not. While the Tinker/Meta gems felt strong, the regular accumulation of stats didn't feel OP like the game-mode was made it out to be. I think I'm getting +12 in stats from standard lvl 70 epic threads atm.

[Makorus]

I mean, the real way to get "op" was never the cloak.

Go to the upgrade guy, and compare the stat of your weapon now, to the last upgrade level.

Yeah.

Tinker gems scale absurdly well with ilvl as well.